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In this episode, you’ll discover… 

  • Why getting trapped in your “Business Identity” sabotages your relationship at home (and how to uncover who you truly are) (3:43) 
  • How paying your kids for reading the Bible “ethically forces” them to embrace Jesus into their lives (12:37) 
  • The “Wisdom Walks Method” that makes the Bible more kid-friendly and impactful (14:01) 
  • How your ego subconsciously creates conflict in your family (and how “killing yourself” frees you from your ego) (27:25) 
  • The weird way being selfish in the morning eliminates your bad days (33:42) 
  • Why training every day grows your business and moves you closer to God (35:01) 

If you’d like to get in touch with Jimmy, you can send him an email at jimmy@fca.org or check out his website at https://www.jimmypage.us/

If you’re feeling stuck, are lacking confidence, or you’re inconsistent, I want to help you. I’m launching The Confident & Consistent Leader Program on June 7th to help you grow in the four main areas of your life: You, marriage, parenting, and business. To check out this program before it launches, head over to https://www.corymcarlson.com/leadership/.  

Are you crushing it at work but struggling at home? If you want to learn how to win at home, then go to https://CoryMCarlson.com and download your free copy of “10 Ways To Win At Home.”

If you're looking for a resource to help you with these times when your work is now in your home, check out my book Win At Home First on Amazon. Forbes Magazine rated it one of 7 books everyone on your team should read.

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Hey, this is Corey. Before we start today's podcast, I want to ask you a quick question. Is your life as fulfilling as you thought it would be? I don't know what area of your life that you feel you're falling short. I know I have different areas of my life at different times. Maybe you want to reignite the passion with your spouse. Maybe you want to be able to walk into a room with confidence. Maybe you're trying to achieve some different health goals or trying to be more patient with your kids. I don't know what it is, but what I do know is from coaching one-on-one executives for the last few years, I find myself repeating the same thing over and over. And the reason being is because we are not alone, we're all battling some of these same situations. So my encouragement to you is join this challenge that I'm launching here in a few weeks where I'm taking a lot of this content that I use with leaders and put it in videos as well as group calls that we can grow through this together. The challenge is called the confident, consistent leader. It will be a challenge over a 30 day period to help you grow head over to my website@coreymcarlson.com forward slash leadership to learn more on to today's episode. Thank you.

Welcome to the win at home first podcast. I'm your host, Cory Carlson. This podcast is where we talk about how successful business leaders win, not only at work, but also at home. On this podcast, we will go behind the scenes with great leaders to hear stories of how they win. Thank you for listening and on to today's episode.

(01:37): This is Corey today's episode. Jimmy phage is a fun one because we get very tactical. Jimmy is a very wise individual. I enjoyed the show a ton, but in asking him questions, he just had all these practical applications. And so I just kept asking questions about how did he do this with your kids? And so we talk about how to synthesize and reading the Bible talked about his morning routine. He also shared this great thing he does when he starts to feel kind of a rub or some conflict with somebody else. We talk identity. We talk about vision statement. I mean, it is just packful of good tactical tips. I hope you enjoyed as much as I did. Thank you very much.

(02:16): Hello. This is Corey. Welcome to the Win At Home first podcast today, I'm with Jimmy page and I've talked before about the one word book and the impact that's had on my life, my family, and even making it impactful to a lot of my clients. Well, Jimmy is a co-author of that book, so it's fun to get to have him here today. He's also involved in FCA. He's written other books. He's a husband, a father of four kids. So just doing incredible things really throughout not only the country, but the world, and so wanted to have him on here so we can learn from him. So Jimmy, thank you very much for being on the show, man. It's a pleasure for sure. Thanks for the intro. That sounds really awesome. I'm like, who

(03:00): Are you describing, man? You're the best man. Good to be on the show with you. It's fun. I enjoyed our first conversation. That was unrecorded. So hopefully we can relive parts of that again. I remember even saying that our first talk and I wish we were recording this well, let's dive in Jimmy. What is that number one trait that you believe leaders need to have in order to win at work and went on?

(03:22): Well, it's a great question, right? Because everybody's kind of looking at at what do you need to be successful at home? And by the way, I love this idea of winning at home first, you know, because I think a lot of times it's an afterthought for a lot of people and there's been so much written on leadership. So as I was contemplating that question, I go to the, the normal traits, but the one that stands out for me more than anything else today is the idea of identity. And you know, when you know who you are, then you'll know what to do when you know who you are, then you'll know what to do. And I think so often we just do not know we get our value and our worth and our success to fill some other identity. And it's not our true identity.

(04:08): You know, my true identity is not in what I do, it's who I am. So when I define who I am very closely, and by the way, I think who, who we are, God defines who we are and our identity first, right? And the closer we can get to aligning with God's definition of who we are, the more likely we are to live our destiny. And so for me, it's all about identity. And as a, as a believer, as someone who has given his life to Christ as trusted Jesus, you know, my identity is in Christ and there's a whole bunch of things that come with that identity that if I embrace the things that come with with who I am now in Christ, then it informs almost everything that I do in every direction.

(04:56): Maybe similar to me with identity where there's been ups and downs there's days. I, yes, I am a beloved son, but there's other times I know at least in my story, I took my identity. Other places, Jimmy, for you, did you find different times whether it's career being an author, being a father, being a husband or whatever it may be that you were taking your identity to other things?

(05:20): Oh yeah. I mean, I think it's really easy to start to believe that you, you are actually what you do. And, you know, I remember in the business world for many, many years running health clubs, running sports performance, training facilities, big time partnerships with people that you would recognize being known in a community, you know, kind of, you know, being in a community long enough to be known and you start to, it starts to matter to you that people know who you are. And so I think for me, when I, when I came out of the business world and into ministry, I had this revelation that I was getting a lot of my identity in the success I was having in, in what I did and kind of who I was in the community. And that was a really rough revelation because all of a sudden, I wasn't important anymore.

(06:16): You know, I didn't feel important anymore. And I remember thinking to myself, man, I went from going a thousand miles an hour, knowing people and being known and, and, and really getting my identity in what I did. Oh, you do this. And then when that was stripped away and I went into ministry in particular with FCA and I kind of became what I would consider anonymous again. That was when I said, Hey, you know, your identity is not in what you do. And I think a lot of people had this crisis later on, maybe at retirement, or they have this crisis when it's too late to really make some corrections, especially as it relates to home marriage, family, kids priorities. So I remember that moment. And I remember, you know, about a six month period where I had to strip back my identity from what other people thought of me and really dive into who am I, and then living out of that identity,

(07:11): Even now FCA or fellowship of Christian athletes for those that may not know what that stands for, but even with FCA, I am sure there are moments where that identity can creep back in, in an unhealthy way, because you're the celebrity, right? That, that goes into these athletic programs or you're, you're looked up and looked up to by the athletes. And so I'm sure you have to check yourself even there because right away into ministry, you may have been anonymous, but now you're not anonymous and an author and NFCA people know you.

(07:43): And I think pride is a, is a very deceptive thing. Right. And you know, at 100%, you know, if you're working with leaders or you're working with athletes or in the sports community, it is easy to kind of want to wear the logo, you know, want to wear the FCA, the fellowship of Christian athletes logo. Oh, you work with coaches and athletes. Oh, do you know? Or as an author, like you've experienced, you know, when you're selling books and you're impacting people's lives. First of all, I don't think there's anything wrong with feeling good about positively impacting people's lives. Like, I mean, that's part of what gets me up out of bed. You know, part of it, part of, part of what gets me out of bed in the morning is the fact that I can live with purpose and passion and, and in alignment with, I think the way God has made me.

(08:28): But yeah, you have to resist the urge again, of caring about your status or, you know, how important you may think you are. And one of the things I always tell my kids is, you know, we live in a day and age of followers. We live in a day and age of likes. And I said, you know, no matter how many followers you have, no matter how big you think you are, the vast majority of the planet knows nothing about you. So there's no, I could have a hundred, I could have a million followers and you'll ask somebody down the street. If they know me and they'll be like, who,

(09:03): Okay, exactly. You live on the same street with Jimmy page. Who's that guy who cares. Right. Oh man. It's good. So being a father of four, how did you talk about identity in the home to re affirm them and what that looked like in their own life?

(09:24): Well, we, you know, for me trying to create a home life, which is based on faith, you know, and really develop those core values. I think part of it was describing what happens when you decide to come to faith. When you believe in God and you receive the gift of Christ, you know, the free gift of salvation, and you say, Hey, what is now true about you? Well, you've one part of your identity is you've been chosen. You've been adopted as a son or a daughter into God's family. So part of the thing is we built this whole thing around. We are pages. You know, you go back to, to the days of Marshall, you know, we are Marshall. And I re I remember early on going, no we're pages. You know, we are pages and we do things differently. We are, if not better, we do things differently.

(10:11): So when you start to realize that you've been adopted into God's family, so that now you're not just a page, but you're in, you're part of God's family and God has certain plans and a future for you and expectations, not in a heavy or burdensome way, but instead as an invitation to live your absolute fullest life. I mean, now, you know, if I know that identity, I'm a child of God I've been adopted as a son or daughter into his family. That the way I live affects other people who are in the family, you know, we kind of built that, that strong connection to, Hey, you know, like I believe it was what was the movie miracle, right? With a hockey movie or the 84 Olympics.

(10:55): Yeah. Team USA beats the Russians. And, and, but one of the scenes in there was, Hey, the name on the front of the Jersey is more important than the name on the back. So as soon as you enter into part of God's family, that that family is becomes even more important than pages, so to speak. So we tried to instill that idea of identity and responsibility to something greater than, than ourselves. And I think we were, you know, we had some success with that. It's never an easy process. Right, right.

(11:26): And you did have some success, you have four kids, three of which went on to Liberty university, and then the fourth is going to go to Liberty university properly. Right. And maybe it's not official, or, but that's a faith school. And so, you know, how did you instill faith, but yet not run them away, not scare them off?

(11:47): Well, I'm not sure that I think we've, how do I say this? I'm not sure that our way is the only way for sure. Everybody's got their own way. Right. One of the things that I was really committed to that my wife and I were really committed to early on was trying not to be judgmental because when you're instilling faith and people feel like you're, you're part of something by definition, in some ways it feels like some people aren't part of that. And we never really, we never wanted to be judgmental. We always wanted to be invitational. You know, like, Hey, you know, have your friends, could we invite people over to experience our family? Can we bring them to events where they can explore their faith? So, you know, and then as far as building in disciplines in the home and requiring certain things, I will tell you this.

(12:38): I used to incentivize Bible reading. So, and I'm not, I'm proud of it now. I don't know if I'm proud of it, but I would give them a if for every, if you make, if you read the Bible every day for a hundred days, I'll give you a hundred dollars. Because I knew that if I could get them into the word of God and they could start to experience it, that it would come alive in them that there's something supernatural about it. So I had no, no shame in incentivizing, you know, faith based behavior, if you will. I absolutely loved that. And kids, if you're listening, it's coming your way. Did you point them to anything to read, to make it kind of more user-friendly for a kid? Yeah. Well, I think one of the things that we did early on was, especially with Dan Britton.

(13:25): I know he, I think he's been a guest on your program. Have you had a lot of fun with them? You know, we, we we're doing life together in accountability. So when we got, you know, we both got married and then started having families and decided, and with two other guys in particular, we built this accountability group. We call the four horsemen and it was all designed to really encourage each other to win in every area of life. Interestingly enough, you know, you talk about winning at home and that was a big piece of it. And I remember in those days, as we did life, we shared our wins and our losses, you know, Hey, what's working, what's not. And out of that, we wrote the book, wisdom, walks, wisdom walks was this idea that in the earliest days we would have the kids when they were little, like under five, six, seven, they would photocopy a story from their kid's Bible.

(14:16): And then they would bring that photocopy along. And we would walk on railroad tracks, believe it or not, we would just go and we'd walk the tracks. And my, my goal was to impart wisdom was to share wisdom, was to experience wisdom from the Bible, you know, unpack it, bring it to life as we walked. So we would just have them share. And I would tell one of the kids, let's say my oldest son, Jimmy, I said, Jimmy, what's your story? And he would say all my stories about, you know, Jonah or my stories about David, David and Goliath. And I'm like, all right, read the story as it appears in your Bible. So he would read it. And then we would just talk about it. And I would ask him questions about it. Like, what does that mean? And what does that tell us about God? And how can we learn more about what he expects of us and that type of thing. And just the idea of walking, getting them to engage, taking scripture right out of their Bible, in a form that they could understand. That's how we wrote wisdom.

(15:11): Oh, that's neat. So wisdom walks covers all different parts of the Bible. 52,

(15:17): One a week, 52 devotions, all designed around a story and then an illustration from the Bible. And some questions that, that make you think more deeply about your faith and about how it applies to everyday life. And it's designed to be done in community. So, you know, you're the Walker, you're the wisdom Walker. And then the key relationships that you have is you've got warriors. So you've got people that you're linking arm with the arms with that are in the same stage of life. That you're, you're iron sharpening, iron. You know, you want to be your very best. Those are your warriors. Then you've got to watch men who is a little bit further ahead in life. Someone that's investing in you wisdom kind of helping you to not make the same mistakes, hopefully that they may have made giving you insight and wisdom into decisions that you have ahead of you. And then you, as the Walker who's receiving from the Watchman and linked to the warriors, invest in someone, we call a Workman and that's kind of that discipleship, that full circle discipleship model, where someone's pouring into you, you're living life with others, and then you're pouring into someone else.

(16:26): Yup. I love that. And incentivize me in the word I will next time we talk, I'll give you the update on how that's going to my house. You bet. So being that we are pages, what other things were you doing that you think were just key differentiators that you would recommend to other listeners that, that was super impactful and helpful to really, you know, getting your kids off to a faith. I had a guest earlier before say he wanted his kids to be independently dependent on God. It sounds like you've done a very nice job of doing that yourself. So what were some of those other key kind of predictable patterns or rhythms that you guys did at the page household?

(17:07): Well, I think that my wife and I really wanted them to see us, you know, in spiritual disciplines, you know, see us reading the Bible, see us spending time to start the day in that way. We would never let them leave the house without praying for them. So before school, we would huddle up and we would say a prayer before the day began. You know, we would always try and circle our conversations back to what what's God teaching you. What, what might this challenge that you're facing be changing in you, you know, are there aspects of it? Are there areas that you need to grow? And this challenge is helping you to grow. You know, how does God see this circumstances? So we really guide in many ways, Corey just wanted to make God part of the ongoing conversation, you know? And I found, and I think a lot of people find that when you make things too structured, a lot of times it gets rejected, you know, because it's like, Oh, one more thing to do. You know, one final thought on that is just trying to make things fun. You know, not making everything heavy where I had to give a message, you know? It's like, cause they get tired of hearing from you, the

(18:26): Scripture ready for the sermon. Ready for dinner tonight. Okay. Guys, it bringing in 20 minutes. Yeah. You can't eat until I'm done. Oh my gosh. Oh man. That's the, that's the IRO in and everything. Yeah. Thank you very much for listening to today's episode. I hope you're joining so far before we go back to the rest of this episode. I want to share with you my book when at home first, some of you have read it. So thank you very much for others of you. You have not. And I encourage, if you're looking for a resource to help you with these times of your work is now in your home and your home is now in your work and what this looks like. This book is being helpful to many leaders like you whores magazine said it was one of seven books. Everyone on your team should read in the book is broken up into four different sections to help you versus about you. Understand who you are. The second is marriage in ideas and tips to help with your marriage. Third is parenting and the last is work. So these four different sections to help you recalibrate during this time and to help move forward. So if you are needing additional resource, I encourage you to check out my book went home first. It is available on Amazon as well as audible and so on to the rest of the episode. Thank you very much.

(19:46): The book, one word, love that book. And what, what's your one word for this? My one word is freedom and it's, it's funny. I actually had a little bit of a, of a false start at the beginning of the year. I've never had this happen before I knew my word was freedom. I was, I actually was convinced in my time spending in the process and my time with God that my word was freedom. We have so, so much conflict around the idea of freedom right now that I think I was like, wow, okay. Well, I don't like I painted my word on my canvas on a new year's Eve. Like we always do. I'm all excited, painted freedom. And the next day I woke up and said, you know what, I'm going to change my word. I'm going to change my word to fearless. And my wife is like, you're an idiot. You know, like, no, you can't change your word.

(20:41): You're breaking the rules. I'm like, they're my rules. I can break the rules. And she's like, you're already, I think God spoke to you about the word freedom. And I think you should stick to it. And I was like, it doesn't matter. So I posted that my word was fearless. I'm all excited about fearless. And then three days later with God, literally showing freedom, freedom, freedom. I mean, everywhere. I finally surrendered and said, okay, my word is freedom. All right. So I scrapped fearless and went back to the original word that God gave me. So that's, that's my word for the year.

(21:16): Oh, great. What does that word mean to you? What, what are you needing to freedom from or looking to kind of break into some new areas?

(21:23): Well, you know, it's interesting because I love America. I love the principles upon which we were founded a very imperfect union at this point, but I love the ideas and I love the ideals of America and, you know, part of what my dad left behind before he passed was the discovery that we're actually sons of the American revolution. And I, I didn't really fully understand why in my life, I, I loved the American and I feel very patriotic towards the opportunities that we have in this guy. I never really fully understood it. Although I know it was part of my dad and my mom's commitment to us, for sure. But when he discovered that we I'm an eighth generation descendant of, of a, of someone who served in and fought in the revolutionary war with Nathaniel hall and others. Wow. I'm certain that that is a big piece of this of why I care about freedom, but from a spiritual perspective.

(22:22): And by the way, I think freedom in our, in our country is under attack. Like no other time I've ever seen it in this country. And that's a bit that concerns me greatly, you know, with this cancel culture and a whole bunch of things, you know, if anybody disagrees with anybody else, they somehow have to disappear. And that, that's just such a weird concept to me, but so I'm fighting for freedom for sure, to uphold the freedoms that we have in this country and pass that onto the next generation, for sure. But I think from a, from a more personal or spiritual perspective, you know, Jesus came, he set us free. He came to set us free. That was the point of it, right? So when I look at the different dimensions of life and in the book, we talk about six dimensions of life from mental, emotional, relational, physical, spiritual, and even financial, you know, you start talking about what are the different ways that you can experience freedom in those areas.

(23:18): And I'll just give you a quick example of this. Back in October of last year, I had back surgery hurt my back man had 10 days where I'm just excruciating pain. And finally I had an orthopedic surgeon that said, Hey, I can fix that and I can fix it this afternoon. So I was like done, done, because now this pain, the pain was excruciating. Wow. So part of the idea of freedom for 2021 is recovering from that because when you have that kind of pain and it's, it really is debilitating. I really lost the ability to, to have the active lifestyle that I love so much. And you know, you're talking about I'm an athlete. I compete in Spartan races. I train every single day. I want to be able to ski with the kids or, or to have really that freedom to do whatever I want physically and to enjoy life. So I think for me, that is, has been the big focus of how do I get back to that place of freedom physically so that I'm not worried or afraid of getting hurt. And, and I'm, I'm there. I mean, we're in April and I'm, I'm 100% healed and recovered and I feel better than I have in a long time, to be honest.

(24:33): That's awesome. Well, congrats, Jimmy, part of my story is where I felt God say, Hey, Corey, you need to hand over your small story for a greater story. Is there a moment in your life, your career, where you felt that you need a hand over Jimmy story for just something greater and that God was calling you into and you may have been a little resistance to it. And then finally you said, all right, I'm in, put me in coach.

(24:56): Well, I remember I actually remember the day that I surrendered my life to Christ. It was a, when I was in college at Virginia tech, and I remember being discipled shortly thereafter by a bunch of athletes, a bunch of my buddies on campus. And they brought to me a concept that said that, Hey, you've been created for a bigger purpose, no question. We all have, God has designs for our life. And then they gave me this verse in Galatians, Galatians two 20, where I think it's Paul that says, you know, I no longer live, but Christ lives in me, Christ lives through me. And that became a real eye-opener for me, because I think I was pursuing my own, my own desires, my own excitement might, you know, and then what I realized was, you know, my life is really part of something much, much bigger, and God has very specific things for me to do in this life.

(25:52): So as part of his redemptive plan, as part of, you know, his story, we, we need to be instruments of God's peace. And we need to be people that are living with an others focused rather than a me first focus. And that was big. I mean, I think that was big and that's something that you have to constantly work out. I think, you know, that's not something every single day. I think you have to die to yourself, pick up your cross, identify with Christ and then live the life that you're made to be. Cause if you do then you're, you are fully part of that bigger story.

(26:28): Jimmy, you can see we're on zoom, but I have a framed picture up there that cross was church. I go to the hand of these out and I ended up framing it and it says it's a great day to die. And I love seeing that because it's exactly that where every we needed, I do our ourselves and I have that as a reminder. So that, I mean, I still have my bad days where it could be about, be about me and get my stuff done. But I purposely put that there right before I sit in the chair as a reminder of, Hey, it's a great day to die and how can I serve others, not serve myself. How could I be about giving important into others? I liked that you talked the very beginning about inviting people into things, inviting kids over to see the page experience, inviting people to have other experiences. And man, such a, just a good mindset, because so often it's just about me, me, me.

(27:20): Oh yeah, yeah, sure. I don't need any help to be selfish. You know, I find in relationships, it shows up when, you know, in conflict a lot of times, you know, because when you're, when you're pursuing your own kind of your own desires and stuff, a lot of times you'll, it'll create a rub. I think for me, whenever I'm having a rub in a relationship, something that doesn't isn't fitting, or maybe there's conflict, it's that time when you say, man, what in me do I need to die to? Am I, you know, what is it pride? Is it selfishness? Is it, what is it? And that's kind of an indicator for me, even relationally in my family with the kids is if there's a Rob, am I trying to control this situation? Or am I, you know, am I the guide? Am I, am I guiding my kids towards their, their experience with God and their best purpose? Or am I trying to control it? So a lot of times that's an eye-opener for me is when I'm having conflict in relationships is generally when I'm having the hardest time kind of dying to myself and my own desires.

(28:23): Oh man. That's good. I love thinking about that. Myself know where there's conflict is asking yourself a work and I die to myself to see maybe how to bless others or yeah, that's good. You've been with FCA for 17 years. Is that right? Yeah. Wow. That's a, that's awesome. I work with a lot of people who quite honestly get bored of their job. They're wanting to go elsewhere. God's gotta be calling me something different, more exciting. How have you stayed true to just pounding the nail every day to FCA and not thinking, Oh, the grass is greener over there. I'm going to jump ship. And so for that listener who is contemplating jumping ship, as I'll talk to a lot of people, it's, you know, instead of running from something, make sure you're running to something. Cause there's a lot of people just want to get away from a bad boss or, you know, had a bad couple of quarters in a row. I want to leave. How have you been able to consistently show up and you know, knowing there's other neat ministries out there, there's other neat businesses or go back in the business world or whatever could be. I, I, I know you've heard all the same head noise before. What's that look like in your life, Jimmy, you know, when that happened

(29:37): And it happens. I mean, I'm kind of the, the guy that maybe is on a five, seven year cycle of sorts and you hear a lot of, a lot of entrepreneurs are kind of on that, that five to seven year season, if you will, where they start something, they build it and then they hand it off and then they got to go do something else. And I don't think that personally, I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. I think that if, as long as you're in tune with the way that God has made you, I think there are people in that box, you know? And I'm, I know a lot of people like that, you probably know a lot of people like that. For me, it really is about purpose, right? It goes back to identity. If you know who you are, then you'll know what to do.

(30:22): And then it goes back to your specific purpose. And I think the, that a lot of times we don't get to a place where we know our individual purpose. So if you don't know why you're here, you don't know what your purpose is. And now there's a lot of reasons we're here. We're ambassadors for God. We're going to, we're going to bring reconciliation to God. I mean, there's some big, big purposes, but for me specifically, my purpose is to inspire and activate the heroic potential in others. So if that's true and I worked for FCA every day that I get up, I say to myself, how can I inspire and activate the heroic potential in those that I'm leading now? I mean, I'm doing I'm doing trainings, I'm building culture. I'm addressing problems all with this idea of inspiring that in others. So I can find great meeting, meaning and satisfaction and fulfillment in the calling that I have this assignment right now and be faithful with it.

(31:21): You know, be faithful with the, with the everyday. Some, some days are harder and more of a grind than others, but I can be faithful when I know what my ultimate purpose is in this situation. So I think, I think a lot of times people get complacent or discontent with their current situation because they've forgotten why they're doing it. Absolutely. Every role has a grind, right? I mean, let's be honest, every single thing has a grind to it. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's something beautiful about being faithful, especially when there's a grind. So I just point everybody back to why are you doing it?

(31:59): I know, I agree. I mean, my corporate life changed when I put together a vision statement and it's actually the same way I use this day where it's to connect people to greater performance and even more significant purpose. And so when the, the boring of the frustrating parts of the corporate job that I had happened, it, I was like, how can I find a redeeming quality of today to help someone perform better work or home? Or how can I help connect them to a greater purpose, whether it's God, or if they're an atheist, just a greater purpose of serving others, whatever it could be. And it helped me get excited. And even to this day, it's mine. So one of the first things we'll do with clients and our coaching program is that vision because it I've seen it a game changer in my life. And it sounds like that has been yours. How long have you had your

(32:46): More than that living on purpose? So it's mattered to me, but I would say to refine it down to something that is repeatable, you don't have to read it on anything. It is just part of who you are probably about 10, 12 years ago is when that just became crystal clear for me. I love yours by the way, there's going to be a lot of listeners right now that are writing down these purposes going I can work

(33:08): Yeah. And steal it. I mean, take it, I mean, matter of fact, about any smart thing I've said, I stole from somebody, you know, so but I did, I will put in the show notes for listeners. I did a podcast earlier about putting together a vision statement using five five-piece possessions, personality, potential problems and passions. I think I saw five right there. I may forgot one, but anyways, cause it's super impactful. So big time. Yeah. I love that. So Jimmy, you seem to everyday get, you know, kind of get fired up and you get going, what does that, what is your kind of morning routine look like, or that helps you elevate your mindset for those bad days?

(33:49): Well, I think it always starts with you deciding to kind of fill your bucket, you know? And so I have some morning routines that I've developed over time that I think have led to success, you know, have led to, you know, clear focus on what I have, what I'm going to do that day the energy to do it, you know, and, and also to get some wins in the morning. Like I always tell everybody, just get some wins, you know, cause that a winner two in the morning leads to momentum. You know, now it starts to breed breed itself. But if so, for example, I'll get up early in the morning and I will spend time in mind, body and spirit, right? So mentally I'm either taking in and sometimes you get a two for one, right? But I'll be taking in a podcast.

(34:32): Maybe it's a leadership podcast from Craig Rochelle or it's an Andy Stanley sermon or an Erwin McManus message or, you know, so I'm taking in material that fills my mind and my spirit with the things that I should be thinking about for that day. I, 100% fuel my body every day, I'd take athletic greens. First thing, empty stomach, I'd put athletic greens, which is just a green smoothie. So immediately my body gets what it needs. My brain gets what it needs. I'll get a workout in the morning. And you know, again, I, I told you, one of my mantras is I train every day and people, people always used to ask me, you know, especially in the health club industry, we used to tell people, Hey, work out at least three times a week, you know, every other day. And what I discovered was that it doesn't work.

(35:20): And for me, for me, it didn't work. I was resting more days than I was draining. If I missed a day, I might only work out once or twice. This week is a complete disaster. I was going backwards. So I finally said, no, no. What do elite athletes do? They train every day, even on a rest day, it's active rest. There's some kind of movement on that day. They're not just sitting on the couch. So for me, I'm like I train every day. So every morning I'll train, I'll get on my bike. I'll lift weights, I'll do whatever my kind of my program is for the day. And and I start the day with the right focus. And one of the questions I ask myself is if I were to accomplish one thing today that would make this day a wild success, you know, and whether that means just getting something done that needs to get done, or it means blessing somebody or making significant progress. If there was one single thing today that I could get done that would make it a wildly successful day, what would it be? And that becomes the bullseye, right. You know, it's like, Hey, I could check off 15 other things on that list. But if that one thing doesn't get checked, arguably not my best day. So that is, that's also the, in the old book

(36:32): Story of kissy ugly frog, or just the frog, whatever it is. Cause usually that is that deal you need to do. You don't want to do it. So you're like, I'll do it later in the day. I'll do it later in the day. I'll do it later day and end of the day, I was like, Oh, okay. And so if you identify it early, it's like, you may even get it done before 9:00 AM. Oh yeah. And a buddy of mine. And you may know him, Mark Batterson, Mark batter.

(36:56): I know of him. I can't claim to be a buddy yet, but he's one of my favorite authors. You'll get them on the, on your show because it's, he's that, he's that great. He talks about eating the frog. He wrote a book called win the day and it's so good. But one of the cons good. He's so odd. I mean, a lot of what he's written has really transformed the way I kind of do things and think about things from a spiritual perspective, for sure. What does it look like right now as you are parenting discipling three kids in college? I mean, you're, they're getting older. I mean, you're almost an empty nester. And so what is that looking like now in the day to day? It is totally different because your, I think your role changes when they're in your house, under your roof, under your protective cover, you can pay them a dollar a day.

(37:52): Now there might be a strategy there. I don't know. I need to think about that. I think for me, it's, it's kind of transitioning into the, into a coaching role more than anything else. And it's it's by permission. Whereas before you may not have always needed permission, although it's a good practice to get permission. But I think for me now my wife read a book called what is it, keep your mouth shut and the welcome mat out. And I thought the book was the stupidest book in the history of man, because I have a hard time keeping my mouth shut. And anyway, but the idea is to, you know, to really ask for permission when they ask you for advice, you step in, if you want to give advice to ask for permission, Hey, could I give you some insight in this area instead of me just telling them I'll ask.

(38:40): And the, and most of the time they're like, yeah, I really, I would love that. A lot of times, you know, my sons will call me and ask me for insight into something, but in the event that they're not, and this is when it becomes more tricky, then you just have to let them make choices and let them, you know, make decisions that, and listen, I keep telling myself, God loves him even more than I do. And sometimes they're going to decide to do things that I'm not excited about, but that's part of their journey. It's part of their story. And no life is lived without mistakes. No life is lived without a desire for a do-over or regret. There's not a single life that doesn't have a mess or a mistake or stress or drama. I mean, I don't know a single person like that. I don't know a single life like that. So you kind of have to pick your spots and hope that you're helping.

(39:35): I'm quick, especially being a coach for living. I'm quick to offer my solutions, my tips, my advice, and definitely need to ask for permission. So that's a good one. Yeah, no doubt, Jimmy, what is the best way for people to get ahold of you and just learn from you or see what you're doing?

(39:54): Super simple. You want me to give me I can give my email, which is just jimmy@fca.org, jimmy@fca.org. That's the easiest way. And and then they can go to my website, which is a Jimmy page.us. And I've got all kinds of great information there and ways they can get ahold of me as well.

(40:14): That's great. Well, this has been awesome. It's fun to talk with you. I enjoy it. And look forward to doing in person on zoom one day. So come back to Denver. I, as I know, I need to, I need to, and I plan to hopefully even in this year too, to see some family there and I will be reaching out. So you better. I look forward to that. Awesome, Jimmy, thank you very much for sharing your wisdom today. We went on first audience.

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