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Do you ever blank on what to say? Maybe you’re on a sales call and awkward silence ensues after a tricky objection. Or you’re writing and rewriting an ad with nothing good spilling onto the page.

The reason is simple: You don’t want to say the wrong thing and lose the people you serve.

It sounds weird, but the key is creating a “too much information” moment—the right way. If you do it the wrong way, it’s just awkward.

In this episode, you’ll hear exactly what information to reveal so you bond with your audience, never be at a loss for words and make sales almost effortless.

Show highlights include:

  • If you ignore this, your podcast will be a time sink and burn your money (this’ll almost sound too simple, but once you hear it, you’ll have a “lightbulb moment”). (2:10)
  • You might not remember, but when you were a child, your parents gave you the secret to glueing your target audience’s eyes to the screen and making them listen to every word you say. Here’s the secret. (7:10)
  • Why teaching valuable information makes people ignore you and chase your competitor who doesn’t teach. (7:35)
  • Way too much marketing is irrelevant and never makes an impact. Here’s how you market in a way that people will talk to you about. (12:55)

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Jonathan: Last month, I invested 10K to work with a guy who is helping me productize my intellectual property over here at The Podcast Factory. Now if you're wondering, productize is a fancy way of taking your knowledge, what's inside your cabeza and turning it into products people will pay for. Now, this guy is a wiz. That's why invested into working with him. Anytime I make an investment like this one, I want to make the most of the opportunity. That's why I jumped in with both feet and started doing work. At the very beginning, he's got this video where he talks about giving yourself permission to be wrong. You won't always know the right answer. Your first choice won't always be right. You have to take action and take account of what you do. [0:01:06.3]

Then you review the results and make the necessary changes to get on course with your target. Now there's nothing wrong with being wrong as long as you learn from it. Speaking of being wrong, when I started productizing my offer, I thought I should focus on the part where I know we give the biggest value to our clients. It's the one thing that makes us unique amongst all other podcast agencies in the world. It's the reason our clients' shows connect with their listeners at the deepest, most profound levels. And it happens in the first three phases of direct response podcasting framework, the client cloner. Who are you talking to, the content vault. What are you saying to them? The client matrix. What do you want them to do? Being a good little student, I rushed to create a group coaching program to test concept. Me and a friend teamed up to sell ten spots in the program I'm calling Profit First Podcasting. [0:02:07.1]

The concept -- most podcasts fail because they fail to plan for profits. We spent 21 days planning your podcast so when you finally record, you'll have a built in way to profit from the very start. You're probably thinking what's wrong with that? You have an idea. You launch a pilot program. You sell some spots. You help people. You get feedback. You make it better. You sell it again. This is an awesome formula for launching almost any project, and I've used it successfully over and over again in a handful of markets. The only thing wrong was a couple of weeks later; we identified a more robust opportunity that involved certifying implementers in direct response podcasting. That means we get to keep the strategy work, which I love, and contract out the production work to our certified implementers. [0:03:00.1]

Even though we're switching directions on the productizing, it's not a total loss. The time we spent with the group and profit first podcasting has created a new product that I'm adding to my book funnel as an upsell, and the guy I teamed up with is using it as a premium bonus for his high-level coaching program. See? Being wrong ain't so bad. Isn't it funny how you know exactly what to say when you're sitting face to face with someone, but have you ever sat down to record and thought to yourself, "I don’t know what to talk about today? I hope I'm not being boring. I don't want to say the wrong thing." You don’t have to worry about that ever again if you do what I show you inside today's show. It's a method I call Tactical TMI, and the idea is to share too much info about your personal life in a tactical way to get listeners to bond with you and like you. [0:04:03.1]

Have I ever told you how my eyes get red and puffy, my ears begin to itch like they're on fire, and my nose begins to gush boogers when I inhale too much oak pollen? To make matters worse, I think Orlando is the oak tree capital of Florida, or at least it feels like it. Anyways, one of my early favorite shows, when I first started listening to podcasts was called Internet Business Mastery. I don’t know if it's still around, but I used to love it. One day one of the hosts talked about a neti pot and how it helped him with his allergies. I was having a flare up that day. I went to the store and bought one, used it, and felt better immediately. If you don’t know what a neti pot is, look it up. Some people compare them to water boarding. I call them relief. In fact, I neti pot at least twice a day now and I've never felt better. I want you to remember something here. [0:05:01.8]

No story is boring to the right listener if you're allergic to oak, you've got allergies, you've ever tried a neti pot, or you felt you like you were being tortured and water boarded, then you can relate to this story. I'm not sure if I ever told you, but I am a big fan of Sean D'Souza. His three-month vacation podcast was one of my favorites. In fact, I took a lot of ideas on how he tells stories and how he uses music and I use them here for the Daddy's Working podcast. Now, as much as I like Sean's podcast, what I like even more is how the dude sells. He's got this whole idea on sequential selling. It's amazing, but I love to buy from the guy. This year I was stoked to get into his article writing program. He calls it the toughest article writing course. [0:06:01.8]

He only opens the doors once per year, charges a premium, and kicks your butt into action the entire time you work with him. I set aside some time and money because I was determined to jump into the program this year. Usually the course opens around June, but after doing some research, I found out he's not doing it this year. What the heck, man? Anyways, you're probably wondering, "Why are you telling me this story right now?" Because Sean is one of the best storytellers I know. I've invested into so many of his premium products I can't even tell you and I always get tons of value for the money and time I invest with him. Last year I invested in his products course and learned more about storytelling than I expected and today I want to share one of the biggest lessons he gave me. I was pleasantly surprised when I got into Sean's products course, to find that more than anything else, he talked about story and story structure. [0:07:08.6]

Stories are the way people learn. Stories are the way information is passed. When you start with a story, most people can't resist hanging around to find out how the story ends. There are four main types of stories that will help you control the pace of the information you share with your listeners. We'll get into those in a second, but first, if you share information, if you hard teach in your presentations, if you share boring numbers and stats, people will retreat into the back of their brains and tune you out. The only way to break through people's distraction is to pull them into a story, make them care, and then, and only then, they'll hang on every word. So enough dilly dallying. Let's jump into the four ways to tell better stories. [0:08:05.2]

PACE. So inside Sean's product course, he shares the acronym PACE. P-A-C-E. There are four main story types. Personal stories: these should be the easiest to come up with. You have them all the time. I shared two with you already, my booger bonding story and being wrong. If you don’t like talking about yourself or if you're not into tactical TMI, you can make these stories about another person or even your listener. For instance, when I was talking about my oak allergies, I could’ve said, "What if you were deathly allergic to oak and you saw a cloud of yellow-green pollen coming your way? What would you do?" I would neti pot. I would stay away from the pollen and then I would neti pot, but you get the idea. [0:09:00.3]

Analogies: these are by far my favorite types of stories. The only problem is, I'm not really great at them yet, but I'm working on it. I am working on it. Analogies compare one thing to another. Just yesterday I was recording Financial Advisor Marketing with my friend, James Pollard, and he did an episode where he compared financial advisors business to Tony Soprano. He said, "Tony always wanted feedback in person. He didn’t want people talking behind his back. If any of his people had something to say, they better say it to his face." Same goes for financial advisors even if it hurts; even if they don’t want to hear it. It's better to get client feedback to your face so you have an opportunity to do something about it. Alright, so listen, got to pay the bills. So here is a quick advertisement for your ears that I think you're going to find useful.
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Speaking of saying it to my face, this is the perfect time to tell you. If you've got something to say about the show, if you have any feedback at all, go to iTunes, give us a rating and a review. [0:11:00.6]

One star, five stars, it doesn't matter. Tell us what you think about the show and for sure, I will read it and I will likely do something about it, whether it's make fun of you or actually record new episodes on whatever you say. So yeah, go to iTunes or wherever you listen to podcasts and give us a review. Case studies: this is a great proof element. When you can share a story of how a person used your product or service and got a great result, people will lean in and listen. People love stories about other people and when you can frame them as a case study, it's not like you're bragging about what you do. You're merely showing the listener how they can enjoy the same great benefits by working with you. Of course, you don't have to limit these case studies to your clients. You can google case studies on almost any topic and come up with interesting stories to illustrate any point you're trying to make. We use case studies all the time. You can check them out. ThePodcastFactory.com/case-studies. [0:12:05.8]

Examples: sometimes people get confused here, and even me, I get confused on this sometimes. Some people think case studies and examples are the same thing, and the short answer is, yes and no. When you share a concept and you show how it's used, that's an example. Like when I told you about analogies and I gave you the example of how James used the Sopranos. But case studies and examples can be used interchangeably. There's no set rule. You just got to decide which type of story will work for you and use it. The best storytellers combine all four types of stories in their presentations to help people remember core concepts. When you share a well-crafted story, people won't be able to resist listening to the very end. They'll remember what you said, and they'll even be able to repeat it back to you. [0:13:00.9]

Wow! We covered too much today. I'm probably going to be mad at myself for putting this out there, but let's do a quick recap. First, it's okay to be wrong as long as you learn from it. Second, sharing TMI can work for you if you use it tactically. Third, to tell stories people can remember and repeat, use PACE, personal stories, analogies, case studies, and examples. Somebody stop me. I can't help myself today. I'm like hard teaching the heck out of storytelling for some reason, but I want to give you a huge bonus. This is so big. It's one of the most effective presentation formulas I have ever seen, and it combines everything we talked about to make your stories more memorable and impactful. [0:14:01.2]

I first learned this deconstructing one of my friend's books, Mr. Ben Settle. He's a great storyteller, prolific author and I noticed this formula he was using and I wrote it down and I try to use it whenever I can. And now that you're going to learn it, you need to use it for every presentation. This formula will endear your readers to you and make them customers faster than anything else I've ever seen. You got a pen and paper? You ready? Number 1 -- start with a story that demonstrates why this point is important, whatever point you're making. Number 2 -- give an analogy. Number 3 -- finish with an example. You got that? Start with a story that demonstrates why your point is important, give an analogy, finish with an example, and people will not be able to resist your stories. They'll be able to take fast action on what you tell them and they'll get big wins fast, which will make them customers faster. [0:15:07.4]

So that's all I've got for you today. I don’t know what's coming up next time, but I will tell you this. If you're listening to these words right now, if you have been listening for a while and you haven't given us a rating and review on wherever you listen, shame on you. Just bad, bad, bad, bad. But more importantly than the rating and review, I don't care about that as much as I care about you subscribing to the show so when a new episode comes out, it is delivered right to your pocket and you have a chance to listen to it. That's all I've got for you today. Daddy's out.

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