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In this episode, you’ll discover… 

  • Why reading Colossians 3:23 every morning puts winning at work and at home on “easy mode” (4:23) 
  • How communicating your shortcomings with your spouse helps you avoid combative arguments (7:55) 
  • The insidious way the “illusion of money” tricks you into sacrificing your dream life for meaningless green paper (10:55) 
  • Why a recession is the best opportunity to grow and expand your business (17:23) 
  • How having your phone in your pocket slowly erodes your relationship with your family (27:00) 

If you’re in the Cincinnati area and want to connect with Marshall, you can send him an email at MHyzdu@moeller.org

If you’re feeling stuck, are lacking confidence, or you’re inconsistent, I want to help you. I’m launching another round of The Confident & Consistent Leader Program on September 6th to help you grow in the four main areas of your life: You, marriage, parenting, and business. To check out this program before it launches, head over to https://www.corymcarlson.com/leadership/.  

Are you crushing it at work but struggling at home? If you want to learn how to win at home, then go to https://CoryMCarlson.com and download your free copy of “10 Ways To Win At Home.”

If you're looking for a resource to help you with these times when your work is now in your home, check out my book Win At Home First on Amazon. Forbes Magazine rated it one of 7 books everyone on your team should read

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Before we get started today's podcast. I'm excited to share with you that the confident and consistent leader challenge is back. We launched our next group on September six in June, we had 11 leaders go through it and the feedback was fantastic. Brad who's a wealth manager said the challenge was extremely helpful and relevant to not only his business, but as a father and a husband, Steven who's a COO said his wife was sad. That challenge was over because she felt the difference it made in his life. Yes, I know it is only 30 days, but with daily emails and videos sprinkled throughout the 30 days, it is high intentionality. We have accountability through the different live group. Coaching calls. Change is possible, whether you want to grow personally, and that may be getting back to the gym, growing spiritually, growing in your marriage, or it's professionally. You want to identify the vision and values for your company. You want to improve culture, whatever it may be. We will identify those at the beginning of the challenge, and then through a bunch of different exercises and activity, you will in fact see growth on the other side, visit Corey M carlson.com forward slash leadership to learn more as well as register. And we will get started on September 6th. And I'm so excited to see this next group of leaders grow. Thank you very much and on to today's podcast.

Welcome to the win at home first podcast. I'm your host, Cory Carlson. This podcast is where we talk about how successful business leaders win, not only at work, but also at home. On this podcast, we will go behind the scenes with great leaders to hear stories of how they win. Thank you for listening and on to today's episode.

(02:03): Hello, today's episode Marshall Hyde zoo is very applicable, whether you lead in corporate America or in the education system. Marshall Heights zoo is president of more high school, which is an elite high school here in the Cincinnati metropolitan area. But the tips he shares and just his story is so applicable to all of us. When we talk about the importance of communication and setting expectations with your spouse, with your family, for Marshall being president of a school, he's got the busy school year, but he'll also has summer.

(02:34): He's got different sporting events. He's got to attend to, as he communicates it sets expectations much what we can all do in our own families. So great discussion there. He talks about his change from going from a high corporate role in marketing, to being president of molar and how he went through identity and image and all these different pieces that we all have to work through when we make big change. So Marshall's chairs, things that are helpful to all of us. He talks about the importance of investing in other people and making sure you surround yourself with a powerful who, and then him and his team have done a great job, putting together their vision and values and make them simple, and then make a memorable, which all of us, whether we're leading our families or our teams at work need to have vision and values that everyone can rally around this episode is great. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did on to today's episode.

(03:29): Hello, Corey Carlson, you're listening to win at home first podcast today, I'm joined by Marshall Hyde Xu, who is president of Mueller high school, one of the premier high schools in the Cincinnati metropolitan area, a private boys school. And he left a successful corporate career to lead this school, which is amazing in itself. He's a father of three boys been married for 10 years. So he's winning at work, went home, and I was excited to invite Marshall on today to learn, you know, how is he doing it? And so Marshall, thank you very much for being on the podcast today.

(04:05): Thank you, Corey. It's a, it's honestly a treat to be here and to be a part of your incredible podcast. So thank you, Marshall, what is the key trait for leaders to win both at work and at home? I believe

(04:17): It's a desire to win everything that you do, and maybe it's Enneagram three inmate, but I think that there's an opportunity and I believe you can win at everything that you do. And, and so whether it's having goals at work or, and goals at family and goals spiritually, I was thinking about cautions 3 23, which is, you know, I'm going to paraphrase it, but whatever you do work at it with all your heart and working for God. And so I think if I'm at home, if I'm at work, if I'm by myself, praying, that's a characteristic that I think is, is really how to win it.

(04:54): I love that desire to win. Then you went on talk about different goals. How do you have goals? Spiritually spiritual goals are really tough. I mean, you can either be as simplistic as possible and say, Hey, I'm pursuing God and Jesus and everything that I do. And that's probably the answer, but there are seasons where I go up and down spiritually. And, and you, you know, when I'm, when things are going well, I'm praying and I'm feeling closer. And when I'm not I feel like I'm standing still. And, and you know, you know, the old adage, if you're, if you're not moving forward, you're moving backward goals

(05:29): At work. We usually sit down with our team. We strategize, we think through, Hey, what are the goals for this year? And so every company, every school has a method of doing that. How do you do that for your home,

(05:43): Sarah and I every year. And I actually, every couple months we will go out on a date night and we'll just spend some time just reviewing what we want out of our family. And, you know, sometimes what we get off center, we'll come back and we'll say, Hey, what's working. What's not working. And you know, as you know, tomorrow is, or this week is the first day of school. And so we're going back and for my job of working at more high school, the fall gets crazy and I'm in a good, crazy. And so Sarah and I really kind of sit down and say, okay, how many nights a week is our goal for you to be home for dinner? Perfect. Or how many times in the month are we going to do a personal date? How many times you can take the boys out for a one-on-one timing and, you know, then we just, we try to hold each other accountable for it. But it's, the home goals are certainly harder to detrack and sometimes fall away from the work goals, but obviously are, are even more important than, than what we're trying to achieve. Cool. I think what's so important about what you said there was communication and it's seasonal. So your

(06:54): Example of the guy in the molar year, it's false jam packed with all the different sports, and that has a heavy load on you. I'm sure as a president, you probably got to attend a bunch of soccer games, football games, volleyball games, and then it shifts into basketball in the winter. And I think that's true of all leaders listening that work is seasonal there. One quarter may be busier than another quarter for someone, if you're a construction, summer's jammed pack compared to a winter. I mean, it, it gives and takes, but some people just kind of treat every day as the same. And so for you, it sounds like you guys are breaking it down. If not quarterly, maybe all the way down to monthly.

(07:33): I have to, I, I mean, because our season changes so often and it's, it is a big roller coaster, but even in the corporate world, you know, no matter what company I was at, there were seasons where it was budgeting season and it was delivering the numbers. It was the end of the quarter. There's always those ebbs and flows, at least in my, my experience out there as well.

(07:55): And communication is such a big piece is expectations. I mean, if, when we don't communicate, it's our wives just think we'll be around a lot more, but if we tell them, Hey, I'm only going to be around for one family dinners. We just due to the demands this week, man. It's amazing how much easier that the relationship is.

(08:14): Cora. You nailed it. I mean, communication is so key and it's amazing because in my head I will think that I am really investing in her, really investing in the boys, man is so much better than it's ever been in the reality in her mind when we're not communicating, that is not her reality. And so just that setting expectations, that communication following up, and then really kind of delivering on what I said I was going to do. And if I said, I'm going to be home at six 15, if I show up at six 20, I'm not honoring her as my wife and as the mother of our children. So it is so critical for the success of when at home.

(08:56): And Jesus said, make your yes. Be yes or no be no. And how true is that in our marriages? Where if we say six, 15 B6 15, because once you allow that to start to drift, there goes trust. Yes, absolutely. I'm Marshall. You made a comment about your corporate career, and I want to press into that a little bit because I think the transition from corporate to going to molar, I think in itself, I had to be an extreme sacrifice. You are global marketing director for Valvoline. Then you shifted into VP of marketing for Bridgestone. So two very powerful companies, great leadership roles, but yet you left those to pursue leading your Alma mater. I am sure that was not an easy decision and may have even in Brighton happen over a week's time. So how did that transition take place? Can you walk us through that? As I know, many listeners are contemplating their own career

(09:49): Decisions. It's really interesting. So we were down in Nashville and, and working at Bridgestone at the VP of marketing level, which was always my goal is to get to that level and then just to kind of breathe and see where my career went at that point. But everything kind of led up to that point. And, you know, Bridgestone is an incredible company, but I got a call in that summertime from the chairman of Mueller's board, mark Rippey. And he said, Marshall, we're, we're looking for a new president, do you know of anybody? And so I gave him a couple of names. They call the names and it didn't work out. And he called me back and said, Marshall, what about you? And I said, mark, what about me? And he said, I want you to consider doing this job. And I gave him like 15 reasons why it didn't make sense.

(10:36): You know, I'm finally at the love I want, I'm making the money that I want. Nashville's incredible. Our family starting to build roots here. And he said, just think about it in court. We found an incredible church down in Nashville, south point, and you know, as crazy as things were in Nashville and at Bridgestone, we went to church and there was a sermon on the illusion of money, the illusion of money. And what he talked about was that when you're at a certain level and you said, you know, what if I just made $10,000 more than I could buy X, and then you make that $10,000 more. And he said, you know, if I made just another 10, then I could buy a Y and then you get to that level. And it just keeps going and going and going. And when he's talking, it was literally like he was sitting next to Sarah.

(11:30): And I, because we look at each other, we have this potential opportunity at Moore high school, our major drawback, the major drawback was financial. And we said, well, what are we doing? Like, this is a dream job. Moeller high school means so much to me because of what it did for me and my brothers. And it's just truly a special place. And we just, we jumped in and I was looking at even a quote on opportunity knocks this morning. And there's a quote about, you know, opportunity knocks. And sometimes you have to walk through that, not knowing if it's a perfect decision or not, but this one was, and for us, for Sarah and I to move back to Cincinnati, to be near family and to really be the dream job, it felt like it was a holy nudge, man. I, you know, we're being down there, corporate life, everything was going great. And there was a, a holy spirit nudge that just said, Hey, why don't you consider this? And, you know, it's one of the three best decisions of my life, you know, besides going to more high school, when I was a student and asking Sarah to marry me, I put it up there in the top three best decisions. So it's been a true blessing to be back here, man.

(12:37): How long from that moment that mark, the chairman said, how about you two? You saying, yes, I think it was October or November of, of that year. And we just moved. So just a few weeks was the time period, tough decision, but truly a blessing besides money and the pay cut. You had to take. What other head trash were you wrestling with to take the job?

(13:06): My whole image, right? Like I, since I was 16 years old, I had been laying out a plan of how to, how to meet my wife and how to raise the family that I wanted to raise. And so every decision I made from 16 until in my thirties was all leading up to that. And my whole image was I'm a vice-president and I I'm working at the largest tire company in the entire world. And to walk away from my, my worldly image of who I thought I was, was hard. That's kind of the mind trap that I find myself into sometimes and not realizing my real worth, which is how God sees me.

(13:50): And it's no small issue in the standpoint, I've been there for my identity being tied to being a corporate exec. And then the idea of pursuing coaching in this whole business. It's, it's, I'm not enough, or I can't do this. How did you think about the standpoint of that you aren't enough where you are enough to lead a school. You have not led a school. You've not stepped in, in the education space even before talk. You invited me in to talk to the leadership team, which I'm grateful for, but even in that conversation, it was, Hey, you know, it's business and school. Just let's talk about that for a little bit. So you had to walk through that as well.

(14:28): Yeah, honestly, Cora, I still don't think that I'm worthy enough or good enough to be here. What I've always done is to rely on the people around me. And there's so many amazing people that work here and have been working here. I mean, there's 23 people that were at molar when I graduated as when I came back six years ago. And, you know, people like Carl Kramer and Mary Fisher and just the incredible leadership team that we have as well as the board where I mentioned mark Rippey and our current board chair or current, and just so many mentors to help us through this process. And I will tell you, I make mistakes every single day here. And but what we're running downhill and we're trying to run as fast as we can without falling down. And, you know, we've had some, some good success, but it's you know, we've got a long way to go. So it's been a lot of fun

(15:24): And you're, you're going after big things as well. I mean, you just helped lead the whole team through the largest molar fundraiser ever and during 2020. So during, during COVID, so how was it leading the team through that during such a trying year, even from an education standpoint of mask and COVID and testing and quarantines all those different pieces, plus that extra layer of stress onto the team of, Hey, we need to go continue to raise money for some of the goals we want to go after.

(15:54): Yeah. You know, and it's, it's two things. One is how do we educate these young men? Like, like how do we deliver our mission of being Catholic and is informing our students in remarkable men while they're wearing masks. And so we committed to be in five days a week and our teachers crush it. I mean, crush it. And I will tell you that first day of in-service when our teachers came back and this was August of last year, people were freaked out and rightfully so, because we didn't know what COVID was like. It was a, a scary time and our teacher stepped up and just nailed it. Our students always get a kick out of this, but we were so worried because we're dealing with teenage young men. We were so worried about them wearing masks. I'm telling you they were better at wearing masks better than the adults were.

(16:45): I it was because they wanted to be at school and then raising money. This was the thing that was truly shocking to me is just, and how humbling it was on our alums, our past parents, aren't current parents and how generous they were to help support our campaign. And so it was $14 million. And we just announced that we raised over 22 million yeah. Humbled and being fired up and excited. And I mean, there's just several words to describe it, but, you know, it's just the leadership of like Mary Fisher internally leading that piece of it. What was just awesome. So, and then we've also been doing construction Corey. So, you know, at the beginning of COVID we had a choice. We could say, Hey, listen, we're going to buckle down and we're going to stop construction because we don't know where the future's going. And one of the things that, that I learned coming from Kraft foods is that when, when you go into a recession, everyone takes all their chips off the table and kind of holds it close.

(17:49): But the companies that really Excel are the ones that not only keep the chips on the table, but actually push it all in and say, you know what? We are going to invest as everyone else is pulling back. And so Dave Beyersdorf who leads our facilities and he's truly incredible. He said, Hey, let's keep going on with our construction. And so we built a brand new band room and acquire room and a locker room all during COVID when everybody else was shutting down. And we said, we're going for this. And we took a lot of heat and rightfully so that, you know, a pandemic hundred year pandemic, and you guys are building structures. Like you gotta be out of your mind, but we believed. And, and I'm so glad that we did because it set us up to where we can keep investing and delivering what we said. We were,

(18:37): Yeah. Those try in years, you either gain market, share, gain ground, or you're giving it away to those who are aggressively going after it. So well done to, to lead the team that way. Marshall, how do you keep your head in the game? How do you elevate your mindset? Because not every day in 2020, where is Rosie? I mean, yes, we look on the hindsight and the kids were able to wear their mask and they were resilient that as you said, the teachers crushed it. Now we've got new facilities, but as you lead and, and I, myself, I've got my updates my down days, what are you doing to elevate the mindset?

(19:13): I always believe that things are gonna work out and just, you know, don't want to call it hope, but just, just believe that God has a plan and that we're going to run as fast as we can towards our goals. And I had a football coach that said, Marshall, you gotta be great at everything that you do. And, and when, when you're at school, be at school, when you are talking to young women, talk to young women, when you're hanging out with your buddies, hanging out with your buddies and when you're playing football, play football. And so when I'm at work, I am a hundred percent here. And when I'm home, I want to be a hundred percent there and spiritually be a hundred percent there. And so I just think that as long as we are focused on where we're focusing, going in, our mission is very clear of what we have, that, that helps you through those trying days, because there are men and I'm telling you, it is amazing how much stuff comes through a high school in a given year. And how many challenges that you, that you deal with because you're dealing with 875 young men and their parents and their grandparents and their challenges, but it is keeping a vision on the higher price.

(20:29): You know, obviously a face of fantastic answer as having that faith and having that mindset that God's going to provide that the harvest is plentiful. And, you know, as you mentioned it, can you continue to go after that prize? Is there anything that you find yourself doing, whether a, a particular prayer particular verse that you go to, or kind of a mantra that has been helpful to you on those trying days?

(20:57): So what I'm doing right now, Corey is every year I try to take on a challenge and this challenge was the read the Bible in a year. And so every single day during the week I'm reading two old Testament and one new Testament book. And for me, that has been incredibly beneficial, not only on the trying days, but the good days, et cetera. And it's really opened up my mind because I, you know, I knew that a lot of the stories and such, but to really have the whole thing congruent and pulling together, and it has opened my mind. And it, it makes different situations that I would normally approach from angle a, to C, B and C, because of the things that I'm reading it. And it's, it's just been really beneficial for me. So that doesn't answer your question exactly on those tough days, but, you know, that's one of the things that I've been focused on on this year, and it's been really beneficial.

(21:54): I can totally see that being applicable. The standpoint, I know in 2020, I really increased my reading because I needed to, because I needed the pick me up and it worked. And it was amazing how this particular verse, a particular story showed up that day. It was, I needed to read it at just the right time. And I've continue on that throughout this whole year, because I got so much out of it. What are you reading right now? Or what are some of the things that have stood out?

(22:26): So right now I'm in Romans and a read Romans five this morning. And if you want to get knocked on your butt read Romans, right. Paul does not eat, does not mince words. And but it's, it's incredible. There's a line about this whole thing about everything always works out and it's Romans eight. We know that for those who love God, all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. And so just, if you believe in pursue God, I truly believe that everything's going to work out.

(22:59): I love that verse because it's all things, not some things, not just the good things, but all things. And from a leadership perspective, I know that, and even in our home, we would talk about all, all the junk that was going on around us. But God, somehow some way is going to use all things for good back to your word of faith and hope is we've got to have faith and hope that these things will be used for good. So we've got to continue to move forward and not just have a pity party, but to know that all things will use for good, whether it's character, you know, it's re refining us, it's character, building boards, that divine delay where something better is coming.

(23:39): Absolutely. And actually in Jeremiah, you know, he talks about suffering leads of perseverance, which leads to character, which leads to hope. Beautiful, man. Yup. That's good stuff. See you are you, do you have those mindset things? And a lot of times it's just going to scripture. I know on my days where I go to scripture, like I can handle the waves. They'll be thrown at me, but the day I slept in or whatever, I didn't get scripts for me. I feel like I just get tossed around all day.

(24:08): So it's that intentionality of our quiet time sets us apart. Thank you very much for listening to today's episode. I hope you are joining so far before we go back to the rest of this episode. I want to share with you my book when at home first, some of you have read it. So thank you very much for others of you. You have not. And I encourage if you're looking for a resource to help you with these times of your work is now in your home and your home is now in your work and what this looks like. This book is being helpful to many leaders like you whores magazine said it was one of seven books. Everyone on your team should read in the book is broken up into four different sections to help you versus about you. Understand who you are. The second is marriage in ideas and tips to help with your marriage. Third is parenting and the last is work. So these four different sections to help you recalibrate during this time and to help move forward. So if you are needing additional resource, I encourage you to check out my book went home first. It is available on Amazon, as well as audible and so on to the rest of the episode. Thank you very much.

(25:21): You mentioned you like to be present where you're at. How have you found yourself to be present at home with the demands of work coming after you? And you do have an extra layer of stress because not only do you have students, but you got parents and grandparents, I heard you mentioned, you know, my kids go to public schools and I, I don't think we've got generational push and pressure on on our students, but you're getting it and pressure of the athletic director, you know, or, or coaches or whatever it could be. So how do you at home guard that time when

(25:56): I'm doing it? Well, I am putting one-on-one time aside for Sarah. I'm putting one-on-one time aside for each of my boys. And, and I know I'm doing it well, three little boys, seven, six, and four, James Teddy and AIG. And I know you eat, you feel this as well, but there's a smile. There's a look. There's a, a body language that when they feel close to me and I'm investing in them, that they give back to me and there's not a better feeling in the world. And I also see it with, with Sarah, right? When I am investing in her and doing things right. She'll smile at kind of the big, dumb animal that I am.

(26:38): You put your phone away, it kind of phone in the cabinet or laptop. Have you had to set up boundaries for yourself? It's an opportunity for me to be better because the phone is that the area where my mind wanders w wanders away from the boys away from Sarah. And so that, that is a huge opportunity for me. Do you put it in a special place or

(27:00): I get it out of my pocket and I put on the counter and I put it basically kind of near our call it charging station and I leave it there. Now, do I walk by and take a look at it? Yes, but I do not have in my pocket because I don't want that distraction. And so I will put it over there. I also have it on vibrate only. And then I turn off all notifications. I mean, that's like the, one of the first things I tell any client or, or friend is turn off all the notifications. I don't need to have a buzzer to tell me the register is scored. That does, I don't need my life adjusted because of something happened or breaking news or what, or I just received an email, a lot of that stuff. I want to pull it as opposed to have it pushed. And so just that idea of that way, I'm in control in someone else's emergency or urgency is not mine. So that's helped me tremendously.

(27:54): That's awesome. Because the thing that I think about and that I feel guilt about is my boys are watching me, whether I know it or not. And within being so young, I don't have to deal with, with issues with phone and technology quite yet. But my fear is that they are going to see me putting that as a priority versus my interaction with them. And so, I mean, I appreciate that, that push and that charge from you. So thank you.

(28:20): Yeah. I encourage you to do it because I also know that they're watching because my kids are older than yours. I've got nine, 13 and 17, and that idea of lead by example, I mean, that is so true in all areas of her life, especially our phone. And so if I'm going to tell my kids to be off their technology, I myself have to make sure I'm off my technology, or at least have a controlled it's that idea of, you know, we're talking about different scriptures in first, Peter, where Peter is saying that we need to basically have self control and be sober-minded. And if I'm not executing with self control or self disciplined, and you know, how can I ask my kids to do the same part of my story? Marshall is the fact that I felt God saying to me, I needed to hand a, my story for a greater story. Did you find that in your life or in your career where there's this moment where, Hey, I just need to, I need to hand it all over from now on is not the marshal story. It's going to be something of a greater story.

(29:23): Yeah. You know, Corey, I mentioned the time when, when I made the choice to come back from Bridgestone to molar, but recently I've been spending a lot of time talking to Sarah and some people close to me and realizing that the incredible accomplishments that we've had at whether it's the dollars that we raise, the, the buildings that we build or the academic programs or the people that we brought in. But it's really interesting. One of the things that I am working on right now is the investment in the incredible people that we have and what that really is, is about turning it over. And it's not about the accomplishments that we talk about is really about investing in other people and the idea of investing in other people so that they see themselves, the way that God sees them and realizing that the end goal of everything that we're charging towards it all starts. It starts with people. And so, you know, that, that's one of the things that I've been really focused on over the last several weeks is really trying to turn it over and realize that it's, it's not about me. It's not about accomplishments. It's about God and God through other people.

(30:36): You said the phrase, turn it over a couple times. What does turn it over mean to you? So recognizing that everything that I do, everything that we do is really about God and what his plan is. I don't accomplish anything unless it's through Jesus. There's nothing that Marshall HIEs do's ever really accomplished in his life. The only accomplishments are what God as allowed me for us to do. And so realizing that it's working as if everything is on me, but believing that everything is on God is what I mean by that. So I'm still going to bust my tail, but realizing that this is, this is all God's score

(31:24): The phrase I started saying in 2020, because I needed to hear it. And I think God gave it to me in a quiet time. And I continue to say it now. So you may have heard me say it is I control the input. God controls the impact. And it's a lot, well you're talking about, I would just turn it over, which is a great kind of rally phrase as well. From the standpoint of, we still have to show up, we still have to do the work. Just like you mentioned, you still got to go ask everyone in the world for, for money to, to hit this fundraising goal. You still got to put pressure on the teachers in a good way to educate and have a, you know, first class educational program. But at the end of the day, how that all translates is it's, God's got the impact of what that looks like a hundred percent.

(32:09): That's a great recap court. You mentioned having a great team. Thank you for having me speak to your team. What I loved about how you lead, how your team leads is we, a lot of times talk about the importance of vision and values. There's a lot of companies that, you know, in school, it's just kind of like, yeah, yeah, whatever, but you guys, I mean, everyone knew what the vision statement was. Everyone knew what those three different values. I was the one that kept forgetting the different values that, you know, I kept for. But I loved how you led with those. And you kept coming back to, has that been something that's you guys have re instated here in recent years and you just keep going back to it as mold always been that way, or you found that we needed that common unity.

(32:51): Corey, I have personally worked at four really big companies, and I'm sure that all four of those companies had mission statements and vision statements. And they went through the whole, the whole planning process and they had a group of people and they wrote, and they, they worked on each different word. And then they put that mission statement somewhere over there and they never looked at it again. And Mueller had a mission statement and it was, it was a typical four sentence mission statement that no one in the building knew what it was. And to me, what is the point? And so we got a cross functional group of, you know, current students, alumni, parents, faculty, staff, board members, and we got together and we wrote those eight words of being Catholic. Merriness forming our students in a remarkable man. And so every single time that I, that I present every time that I go here or there, and we have it plastered all over the school, it's those eight words.

(33:52): And if we ever get off mission, we know what the mission is. It's to be Catholic it's to be married. And it's about our students. And if there's anything that we do that is not about our students, it's off mission. And, you know, Carl Kramer, our principal and I, we met with all our faculties staff. And we went through the mission again at our in-service. And we also went through our core values of build the family, hold the door, earn the shield. And the more those seep into our lexicon, the more people will internalize it and start to live and breathe it. And you get an opportunity or I'm sure you have, or you there's an incredible leaders out there, whether it's Dabo, Swinney or flack of a minute in Minnesota, there's a couple of football coaches, but they talk about the mission of the core values. And those just permeating everything that we do. And it should be the way that we hire it should be the way that we evaluate people, those core values. And so we are going to continue to invest in that piece because I think it's so powerful. I think it's so powerful that people know where we're going and how we behave or how we expect ourselves to behave and how our students should behave as well. It's great.

(35:07): And I love how they both are simple, be at me and allow, and we work with different companies and we did not help you put yours together, but we will say with vision it's to be clear and compelling and values need to be meaningful and memorable. Both of would, you guys did a great job, which is why everyone's able to recite them, which is why they're just not a fancy plaque on a wall. They actually are lived out day in, day out. They can be a filter for hiring, for firing, for performance reviews, all kinds of great things when they are meaningful, memorable. So very, very good. Marshall, do you have a personal vision statement?

(35:43): So we have a vision statement for our family and it's we want to work hard. We want to be kind and we want to love God. And so we, we say those three things in our family over and over again to the point, and I know this is good is when the boys cut me off and like, dad, we got it. We got it. Work hard. Be kind, love, God check. Got it. We're tired of hearing it. So that's well done. Yeah. But I really believe, you know, even in Genesis, God calls us to work hard, to be kind and to love God. And if we do those three things I, I think our, our boys and our family are going to be a great shape.

(36:25): Oh man. If we all did those things, the world to be a better place. For sure. So Marshall, thank you very much for what you do and the impact you're having on the community. And for me, being able to call your friends. So thank you for all you do. Thanks for being a guest on this podcast,

(36:41): Corey, I really appreciate it. I appreciate you. You work with our leadership team, did an incredible job and, and it's, it's a true honor to be even considered for your podcast. So thanks. Awesome. Marshall, what's the best way for people to get ahold of you. You can email me@amhighsdoatmolar.org.

(36:58): All right, sounds good. We'll put those in the show notes as well. Thank you very much. Thanks Corey. I want to thank you for listening to my podcast. When at home first, I am so grateful to hear from listeners like you, that this content has been helpful. So now I would love for you to pay it forward. I want to get this message in the hands of more listeners. We need leaders to be winning both at home and at work, especially during this time. So please take a minute to share this episode with somebody you think would find value in it, as well as rate and subscribe as a thank you, please visit my website@coriumcarlson.com to download a free resource that people are finding value in. Thank you very much.

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