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In this episode, you’ll discover… 

  • How a weekly date night prevents you and your spouse from getting trapped in the day to day that suffocates relationships (3:35) 
  • Why investing in your marriage like a business “scales” the love you both have for eachother (4:51) 
  • 4 things to do every day before your family wakes up that puts you business and family growth on steroids (13:10) 
  • The admittedly “woo woo” mindset trick that seems silly but works like gangbusters for achieving your wildest dreams (14:39) 
  • How stepping back as a leader helps recoup losing 80% of your revenue overnight (21:36) 

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Hey, this is Corey. Before we start today's podcast, I want to ask you a quick question. Is your life as fulfilling as you thought it would be? I don't know what area of your life that you feel you're falling short. I know I have different areas of my life at different times. Maybe you want to reignite the passion with your spouse. Maybe you want to be able to walk into a room with confidence. Maybe you're trying to achieve some different health goals or trying to be more patient with your kids. I don't know what it is, but what I do know is from coaching one-on-one executives for the last few years, I find myself repeating the same thing over and over. And the reason being is because we are not alone, we're all battling some of these same situations.

So my encouragement to you is join this challenge that I'm launching here in a few weeks where I'm taking a lot of this content that I use with leaders and put it in videos as well as group calls that we can grow through this together. The challenge is called the confident, consistent leader. It will be a challenge over a 30 day period to help you grow head over to my website@coreymcarlson.com forward slash leadership to learn more on to today's episode. Thank you.

Welcome to the win at home first podcast. I'm your host, Cory Carlson. This podcast is where we talk about how successful business leaders win, not only at work, but also at home. On this podcast, we will go behind the scenes with great leaders to hear stories of how they win. Thank you for listening and on to today's episode.

(01:37): This is Corey. On today's episode, J R. Is filled with good information from how he wins the day by starting his morning routine that I think will be helpful to you, how he is became very intentional listening to his employees. We also dive into race Jr. Is black. I obviously white. We talk about some races. He's got some great tips for us to lead with openness. It's a awesome discussion. I hope you enjoyed as much as I did. And on to today's episode,

(02:10): Corey, listen to win a home first podcast today, I'm joined by J R foster, who is married, has three young boys, as well as leading two different companies. And they are just seeing fantastic growth. And so I was excited to sit down and Jr today just to learn from them, like, how are you doing this? It's in commercial real estate, which has this challenges, but yet he's still finding growth. So he's doing something right as well as winning and home and a strong man and his faith. So Jr. Thank you very much for, for being on the podcast today. Yeah, of course. Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here and excited to share. Awesome. Well, let's dive in. What is that key trait that leaders need to have in order to win at work and went home? Wow. That key trait for me has been perseverance.

(03:01): That has been my, my key trait, you know, never giving up, even when the battle gets tough. You know, you, you have ups and downs and challenges, not only in business, but in your personal and professional lives. So I think it's that perseverance, making sure you steady stay steady in the court. So what does perseverance look like for you at home? You know, for us, it's just being able to persevere for Rhonda and I, and Ron is my wife, really just making sure that we stayed true to who we are as parents. But also as individuals, but also as a couple, right? It's you get very caught up in the day to day of just doing life. And for us, the way we persevere through that is we have a date night every Thursday, right? So we make sure we're intentional about, you know, giving back to, you know, why we became a couple, it's not always, you know, the best and the rosiest you, no relationship is, or no situation is, but we make sure that we stay true to our, our core values as a family core values as a couple.

(04:07): And we just persevere through, you know, all the good times and low times he says some good stuff there. I want to dive in a bunch of it, but I'm gonna try to piece it one at a time here, date night on every Thursday night. I absolutely love that. One of the first things I do when I start talking to clients about their marriage is not going great. And it's like, when the last time you went on date with your spouse, it's like you don't know, but you guys are hitting our every Thursday night going on a date. We've had, we haven't missed it even through COVID we, we braved Cove and went out. Yeah, every Thursday we have a standing babysitter. Every Thursday, she comes over at six 30. We leave the house by seven 30. I love it. W Jr. I got at what the naysayers that are listening to all this, but it costs a lot of money.

(04:53): What about the money you spent on babysit and going out to eat? You know what I, I, you have to, you have to make an investment, you know, about this. I mean, just with your coaching practice and you're pouring into guys, you have to spend the money to invest where, where it's most important to you. And what's most important to us is each other and our family, and it doesn't have to be expensive. Right? You don't have to go to Jeff Ruby's every Thursday, you know, you can do something very simple in the summer. We'll do a picnic, right? I mean, it doesn't have to be something where you're spending money. That's, you know normally outside of what you would spend on a normal Thursday. That's great. What about the idea that it takes time and you got to work late and don't, you have to work late on Thursday nights.

(05:37): So how does that work in your life? Because I mean, you're the owner of a company that as we talked about is growing like crazy and they're always time to work and we can't just do date once a month, Jr. That's a great question, man. I mean, that's back to prioritization, right? You have to prioritize it's on Thursday instead of you know, waking up at my normal six o'clock time, I'll wake up at five, get my workout in, you know, we just prioritize around. What's important to us and for us, why are we working hard? We're working hard so we can have a great life so we can have great family time. And so you have to sacrifice some things. And work's not the most important thing to us. The most important thing is each other in our family. That's good stuff.

(06:20): And then you made a combat, you even shift your Thursday cause you know, you got date nights. So it was like, I've got to wake up a little earlier to make sure I get my [inaudible].

(06:27): And so you're shifting the day and you're being intentional from 5:00 AM on, on those Thursdays I am. And I'm being very intentional about it. I'm actually, I'm very intentional person to begin with. But you know, for that day in particular we know it's coming. We know it's every Thursday. So we just, we, we build a schedule around kind of that time together. It's, it's a, it's a rough Friday morning when I have my workout with my workout partner Rico. But it's, it's worth it.

(06:54): That's right. He can tell if you've been to Jeff Ruby's or you did a picnic, if you're on your feet, if you're light on your feet, you're like, yeah, you had a picnic last, I hear a little slow and like, Oh, you got a big old steak. That's

(07:08): Good. That's good. You mentioned

(07:10): A family values. Was that just kind of a generic blanket statement or do you guys, in fact, have you sat down and done a vision state

(07:18): And values for your family? So we have done that. We have done the full-on vision statement values. Now what we haven't done is we haven't revisited that since our last son, probably this is our last Tucson's, so, you know, things change. And so I think one of the things we try to do is get something together on a quarterly, just we use it, go to a coffee shop on a Saturday and just talk about kind of power leading our family, where we want to lead them. You know, we're in that stage now where we're thinking about things like education. So those things are important to us. But yeah, we do have a vision statement and core values for the family. I think it, it needs to be revamped, but it definitely is the North star to kind of our family. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot easier when it's in place to recalibrate towards it, as opposed to recalibrating to nothing. If we're just kind of going blindly, then, you know, bad things can happen. We get distracted. Exactly. Where does Rhonda work? She does. She does. She's HR business partner for Jewish hospital. So, so you both are busy demanding jobs and yeah,

(08:24): Three young kids and still find a way to make priority for date night, run the family, like a business where you have a vision and values.

(08:31): Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the only way to get it done. I think it's the only way for us to get it done. We are, as you know, just with kids, it's just, we're going a mile a minute. And so, you know, for that, we have to be very, very intentional about our schedule and our timing and beliefs. We also always prioritize the family around anything with the three young. And are you there? They're young. They're four, two and one. So it's hard to get dates with them, but are you starting to, even with your oldest looking to get those one-on-one times? We do. I do personally. So one of the things that I do every night is I read to them and then I read the Bible to them. So we're, we're in songs right now trying to explain to them certain verses or whatever.

(09:18): But what I also do is I pull them out of daycare and where they're in now once a month, each of them. And so we spend a half day together. It's an amazing time and the questions that I get and the time that they're away from their brothers and their dad time it's it's, it's really special. So I just started that during COVID. So I'm going to continue to do that probably four by four lifetime with him. Yeah. Good for you. You, yeah, the people that are listening and I'm one of them at times, cause I, my kids are older than yours, but they can roll their eyes. When I start talking scripture, they can get bored, they can heal our, how do you handle yourself at night when you're reading the Bible and they're kind of losing their cool and they're getting bored.

(10:01): What's been your kind of strategy that is, that had the last night that's right. My two year olds, you know, running into his bed, doing back flips and I'm like, Marshall, come on over here. You know what? I just, I know they're young. So I'm I'm patient in the fact that hopefully it's getting through to them through osmosis. Right. You know, I, I don't try. I'm not crushing them to listen to the Bible and listen to the different verses. I am really just trying to get them into a routine of knowing that it's important for our family to have Jesus a part of their life. And so for me, I just, I take it as a grain of salt. If they want to, you know, play with their toy while I'm reading, it just happens to be so, so basically before you start quiet time with them, you're praying God, give me grace exactly.

(10:50): To give me grace. So I don't lose my cool during Bible time. Well, right now we always, always start out with a book that they enjoy. Like, so we're reading some superhero books. We just read about how Tony stark from Ironman got his start. Right. And so they're dialed into that. And then we read about 15 minutes of that and then we're on to the Bible. And so I've learned that I've got about two or three verses and then their extended fan is gone. So, so yeah, I just, and I just love that idea and going on, God's promise that God's word never comes back void. So exactly to your point, they may not know everything going on, but they're watching you, they're seeing you lead. They're seeing that you're dependent on Jesus, as opposed, even though you're successful businessman and a successful man, they will see that, Hey, you're still dependent. You still submit, you still have to get down on your hands and knees and pray at times. Exactly. Whereas thinking you're just as lone Wolf, you can pull up your own bootstraps. Yep. A hundred percent. That's good.

(11:57): What does your quiet time look like for you individually? I mean, you know, in the commercial real estate space, which when we talk more about that, but obviously that's taken somewhat of a hit and during COVID, obviously everyone kind of thinks is going to take even more of a hit postcode would and people doing zoom and things like that. How do you go about your day from a mine

(12:18): Standpoint, spending time in the word as well as just those days that are rough and hard. You know what I really recalibrated just my day during COVID I think COVID for me was an awakening. It was a time to really reflect on what was important to me. And I, I think I came out of it and still going through it. We are obviously, but I came out of it as a better person, man, and, and just all around better. And now the reason why I say that to answer your question directly, I became more intentional around what are the important things in my life. And then how do I make sure that I prioritize always those? And one of the things that came out of that was I needed to really figure out what my morning was like, if you hit your morning, right.

(13:06): In my opinion, your day set up correctly. And so I have a vision, a thing that I go through every morning, I review my goals. I do meditation, I do my affirmations. I pray every morning and I do that before anyone gets up in the house. Right. So it's my quiet time. It's early, it's five, five to six 30. And I just really kind of get through the day. I take my dog for a walk, listen to some podcasts. So that hour to hour and a half is my time. And my time to really reflect on the family, me personally, and my business. And I, and I, I do it religiously every morning. I started more routine probably about a year ago as well, and an identity prayer that I believe God's calling out to affirm in me

(13:59): And things that are kind of my weaknesses, whether it's provision or, you know, whatever it could be

(14:05): And hitting

(14:06): Those pieces. I also do. I am statements, those affirmations. I mean, that's been

(14:10): The game changer. How long have you been doing that? I also wrote kind of a 10 year vision of as if I was living that vision at the time. And it it's very, it's, it's only a paragraph, but it talks about where I'm sitting, where I'm, you know, I'm sitting in Barbados at a house on the beach, you know, and no, my sister and brother-in-law just got in town and spending the weekend with us. I mean, that's what it reads when I'm reading it, because that's where I want to be in 10 years. So it's a really visualizing where you want to be and

(14:43): Reading a lot different mindset books that, just talk about that whole visualization.

(14:47): Yeah. How critical that is. So in Michael Jordan,

(14:49): The last answer is this part, the end

(14:52): Where him and Phil Jackson go to hug and Phil Jackson says something like, I can't believe we do it. They did this. And Michael Jordan like I did because I saw it. And it's one of those deals where it's like, visualization was so important to him as it is with a lot of different mindset individuals that it's, that's something I am working on. And I've seen a lot of breakthrough in him, but it sounds like you are participating in that as well. Yourself. I love it. It feels like for the people that, like you said, might roll their eyes. It might feel a little hokey. I'll tell you things that I've visualized or put into existence or you speak into existence and it's been coming back to me. It really has been.

(15:31): Yeah. That's fantastic. Thank you very much for Listening to today's episode. I hope you are so far before we go back to the rest of this episode. I want to share with you my book when at home first, some of you have read it. So thank you very much for others of you. You have not. And I encourage if you're looking for a resource to help you with these times of your work is now in your home and your home is now in your work and what this looks like. This book is being helpful to many leaders like you whores magazine said it was one of seven books. Everyone on your team should read in the book is broken up into four different sections to help you versus about you. Understand who you are. The second is marriage in ideas and tips to help with your marriage. Third is parenting and the last is work. So these four different sections to help you recalibrate during this time and to help move forward. So if you are needing additional resource, I encourage you to check out my book went home first. It is available on Amazon, as well as audible and so on to the rest of the episode. Thank you very much.

(16:42): We are a big part of my story is, you know, I felt guy just saying, Hey, you need a hand over your small story. You know, Corey for a greater story, something bigger than myself. And it's been a big part of my life, big part of kind of turning my mess for choices I made into my message. What about for you? What's that look like in your life Jr. Was there that time where you felt you just had a handover, your small story for something greater? Yeah, I mean, in a similar mindset, I think, you know, guys go through that maturing stage, you know, however old you are. And I felt as though I was more living the bachelor life for a long time, I didn't get married until I was, well, I didn't have my first kid until I was 37 and didn't get married until, you know, 39.

(17:28): But I felt that, you know, I was on a path of really just not having a true direction other than kind of life was the work was my life. And outside of that, it was, you know, just having fun on the weekends, right. And, you know, partying and dating and, but not really not really having a true direction. And I feel that, you know, you know, meeting Rhonda and going through the dating process with her and realizing that, you know, I've got to get serious about this, or I'm going to lose a special person in my life. You know, I'm going to lose the opportunity to really become the man that I, that I think I'm becoming today by not being serious in a relationship right. Or not, and not committing like many guys do not like to commit, you know, I was leading that same, that same vein.

(18:16): And you know, when I turned on that switch of this is just me and her, and this is the, this is the path that I want to take life for me just took up an amazing upward swing for the positive. You know, I, I just felt more, you know, more settled base, a more solid base. You know, I was, I was working for a purpose. I was living for a purpose. I was loving for a purpose. And so for me, that, that really, and I know there's a, there's a quote in game of Thrones, which was one of my favorite series. It says, kill the boy and let the, the man be born. And so I really felt like, you know, when I kind of left the foolishness of dating, dating a lot and dating a bunch of different women, it was a really intentional to, to be focused on, you know, becoming the best man I could be.

(19:04): And to me, that was also proven that could be a committed partner. Hmm. And so I assume every aspect of your life change that way, like even, you know, how you lead your work team, how you lead you're in your own self. Oh, is that true? I mean, did you just see a difference in all areas of your life? Yeah, I did. I, I, a hundred percent did another added to that add addition to that is I also became more intentional about you know, my, my faith journey as well. And so it kind of all came together. So yes if the work life balance became even more, more of an easy road, to be honest with you, because I was really focused on being a better person, which made me, obviously it translated into me being a better leader, you know, a better lover and, you know, just a better person, even to my friends and family, because I really felt like I had purpose at that time.

(19:57): And I don't know if that sounds odd, but that's, that's what it was. No. Do you have a personal vision statement for yourself? Do I do it in a part of that morning routine? That vision statements in there that I read? So the whole thing was about 14 pages that I read every morning and it's a lot of it's bullet points, but some of it's a vision statement. Yeah. I think you and I got a very similar Google doc, although I don't have a, I don't have Barbados in mine. So before you met Ronda, before you kind of had this, you still were Christian, you still were, you still have faith. It's just, you weren't necessarily practicing every day. That's exactly right. You know, it was, it was a nice to have, you know, I was going across roads every other month, right. When I woke up and partying or whatever.

(20:40): But yeah, I, I still was a man of faith and I was still trying to be the best Christian that I could be. But it, you know, when you really focus on it, you're really going to, and just hearing you talk earlier, it sounded like before that pivotal moment, it was more about a dependent on yourself and God, was there a convenience where now it sounds like it shifted where it's a dependence on God. Yeah. The thing is dependent. I think on it, you know, I think it's it's an it's intentional, but it's also important in my life knowing that it's being led by, by God and by him. That's good talking about your business a little bit commercial real estate. We've talked about it. It's, it's, it's definitely has some interesting stories in the news and everyone's zooming and capacity is, is way over there.

(21:29): How are, how are you leading your team and how are you kind of thinking about the future of commercial real estate? So we, we took a pretty big hit in one division of our company. So we have three divisions, capital facility maintenance, and then brokerage in the facility maintenance. We had over 500 restaurants that we were doing business floor and then overnight restaurants shut down. Right. So we lost 80% of that revenue literally overnight. Wow. So, you know, we had to recalibrate and rethink about, you know, you know, no one knew that co it was going to wipe out you know, multiple industry, but also just kind of maybe one sector that we were focused on. So we really just started to think about, we got our team together and, you know, over a lot of zoom calls and we just started really pouring into each other and coordinating to the business and seeing where, where are we going to be the pitfalls going forward?

(22:17): But also where could we also drive more value back to our clients? And as we started kind of getting through those brainstorming sessions so much came out of that. And as a leader, I kind of stepped back and just listened versus trying to lead and push the agenda and push the strategy. For me, it was a really enlightening period. And that's why I said I came out of COVID much better because I really just let the team kind of say, Hey, this is what we're saying. This is what we're hearing. And these are the areas that we need to invest time, energy, and capital into our business. And it's proven to be great. We are, we are really doing well right now. And I, I really throw that back to the team and them taking the lead and, and me as a leader, just listening.

(23:00): So you're saying your employees actually have some good ideas. Huh? They may actually, you know, so many leaders think, especially founders, right? I mean, that's what you're dealing with you, that you're a founder. You have a co-founder, but there's that founder's mentality of almost like, Hey, it's, it's my idea or the highway. And, but instead being that leader that, that listens that as kind of an open form of let's all brainstorm the idea and then let the best idea rise to the top. Not my idea, rise to the top, but the best idea is that, you know, we kind of talked about your mid thirties change and what it looked like and your spiritual life, your dating life, all those things. Did you notice that in your leadership life to where you started leading differently and you're kind of more open to listen, openness

(23:46): Serving your employees, did you see a change,

(23:49): Super change, you know, and also during COVID I read more, right. So I was reading a ton with all the downtime. So that also helped me out. I was getting ideas from those that have been there. And I was kind of coming back with those leadership skills back to my team and really shutting down my usual aggressive nature in a, in a board meeting and just saying, Hey guys, what are you saying? So, yes, we, we, we, we, I saw it in myself and I continue to see it. And prior to that, Dave and I had never thought of an idea that wasn't great. And now, now we we're like, wow. You know, our team is, has much larger and larger voice today than we do. And it's, it's great. And it's also allowing us to step out of the business and let other people lead

(24:39): A long time, but it sure sounds like there's a big change in your life.

(24:43): Yeah. Jesus, I mean, I'm a, I'm a competent person and you know, and I, and I still have to at times pull myself back because you, you said it right. I mean, my brother-in-law said it, even in relationships, he's like, you got to swallow your pride. Right. You're you can't, you gotta be humble. You're not gonna win every battle. And I, and I think that that's something that I'm still working on still work.

(25:09): Yeah. I mean, just hearing some of the stories, it really sounds like a big shift. So it sounds like progress had been made, but like you said, we've got to still work on it. You know, and me too, it's, it's the, it's the blessing and the curse of, of a lot of confidence in going after it,

(25:27): You do really good with one-on-one

(25:29): With your wife, with your kids. I assume you've got a same rhythm with employees and making sure you're having that face to face.

(25:37): Yeah. So I'm getting better at that, you know, before. So Dave and I kind of lead PD does more of the operations and I'm more strategy and vision. And so he's interacting with our employees more than I am, but I also found out during COVID, I'm kind of being asked to have more involvement on the one-on-one conversations. Right. So one, I was excited to hear that, but also to realize that I had probably been missing the boat there for awhile, what is he doing? Yeah. And it's one of those things where I might do workloads a lot. Right. I'm the guy that's with the earpiece and I'm loud in my room, you know, pacing and talking. And so it was kind of, I think the feedback that was received is maybe, I didn't think folks were valued as much as I thought they were in my heart, in my head. I just wasn't verbalizing that to my team. So that's what came out of it and I love one-on-one stuff. And so it's, it's been a good change of scenery and events for me to be more in front of our folks on a one-on-one basis. What is a faith look like at your

(26:44): Company? Do you guys talk about it at all? Do you lead with it or, or is it

(26:48): Just not discussed? So we don't really discuss it. I mean, it's you know, we have, we're not intentional about hiring anyone that has to come from a faith background, but, you know, folks, you know, are pouring into different community things. And our, you know, our, our we're we're community-based business more than a faith-based business. We allow folks to be who they are and express who they are. But we really, if you look at our website and things like that, we're really going after folks that have a community minded focus to them and are giving back and philanthropy standpoint and they just kind of get it,

(27:26): The philanthropy, the, the kind of nonprofit or whatever that they're a part of and you guys support, or do you guys kind of pull the resources together and say, Hey, we want to focus on this community. We want to focus on.

(27:38): So we have some company initiatives and organizations that we support habitat for humanity, changing gears. You're, you're familiar with them

(27:47): Changing gear. That's cool. You're part of it as

(27:49): Well. Yeah. So really important to those organizations as a company, but then everyone else within their own individual likeness we'll, we'll definitely donate and, or donate time or energy into their costs as well. But we have some core things and organizations that we support, we don't make our employees join those core supports, but we ask them to join. They have a lightness to it. Oh man. It's neat. Yeah. What are you hearing from God right now in Jr.

(28:19): Your quiet time reading songs with your, with your boys? What are things that you're hearing in your quiet? Yeah.

(28:24): You know what I'm, I'm hearing that I need to step up more as a coach, as a leader, as we go through some tough times as, as the country goes through some tough times of racial disparities and things like that, you know, just you know, stepping up and, and trying to lead from a godly perspective, but also making sure that, you know, I'm, I'm a voice in the community that's listening to guys like myself that might be hurting that aren't, you know, expressing that, you know, as guys, we don't really express our emotions, but I know there's a lot of gentlemen that looked like me that, you know, maybe in a state of distress and maybe that outlet isn't right for their wife or their, you know, their significant other. And so being that kind of sounding board to folks that might be having some stress in their life, because they're worried about family and in racial issues. Yeah. And for those listening

(29:18): You know, I'm white and Jr black. And for those who can't obviously see our zoom, but no, and so it, it definitely has been a, a trying year for sure. And I'm sure how to dig down deep many times.

(29:33): Yeah. And so it's, you know, I've had a lot of talks with guys that run companies that are in my age range and I feel like, you know, it's, it's to agree. It's okay to cry. It's okay to, you know, not, not know. Right. And so, you know, I come from a great family, I've got a great dad and he and I are super best friends. And so I'm able to talk to him about anything. And then some of my peers don't have that outlet.

(29:57): You got a great dad and, and add that I'm grateful. I had a great dad as well.

(30:03): So, you know, Jr.

(30:04): Not that you know, I didn't know if we, you know, talk about this or not, but, but just on this topic, obviously that we don't have enough time to cover all of the things, all the thoughts, all your recommendations, everything that you

(30:17): Have, but the predominant

(30:19): Listeners are going to be on,

(30:22): You know, podcasts are white course. Is there anything

(30:25): You would say to us as leaders, or maybe you say it a lot to, to the people out in the community, and now now's the time to kind of say something that, to help us lead during these times that are challenging. We're all kind of, I know I've listened to more podcasts about race than I ever have. I've read some books, I've had some conversations like this that are deep in their heart. Had Chuck Mingo on the podcast months ago. That was cool. So just the, I know a lot of people are trying, but w w w would you give us some, I guess, words of, kind of direction or,

(30:56): Yeah, it's tough because I think race is always going to be a racial issue is race, inner conflict in yourself. There's always going to be that right. And so, you know what I've been telling a lot of folks and folks that don't, you know, folks are on the other side of the aisle folks that don't look like me. I mean, I, I went to Cincinnati country day. I went to predominantly white schools and, you know, I got a great education and a great understanding of both sides of the coin. And, you know, for me, what I just tell people is lead lead with openness lead with openness. And I think a lot of what the faults have been black, white, green, or yellow, whatever shade you come from is, you know, we're often taught certain practices, right? We're often not given the ability to understand someone on their own ground without having some sort of predetermined notion of who they are and what they are and what they do and where they come from.

(31:56): And, you know, if they're a good person or a bad person. So I always tell leaders, especially my white friends that are leaders that asked me these questions is, you know, don't be afraid to ask questions, come at it from a, you know, a real wanting to know and wanting to learn. And I say that to my friends that are black, that are leaders that may have not have had exposure to a lot of white folks and white people. And so I think it's a, that's a, a thing that we need to have more intentional conversations around. What's important to us as people. And I will, I think what we'll find and what we do, what I find is where everyone's very similar. I think a lot of people are similar. I think a lot of people just, our are taught a different way and just because of the historical nature of our society and, and you can dig back very, very deep and see all the deep scars and everything that's happened in society. But I think if we're able to have real live conversations and get intentional about trying to figure out our differences, I think those differences will really feel like similarities.

(33:00): Absolutely. I mean, that's the thing. We have more similarities than we do differences. Exactly. I really didn't. They, the difference we're talking about right now, just race, it's one thing, but the similarities are, marriage is hard. We better go on dates. We better figure out the tension with our kids. Hey, how can I be more humble at work? How can I listen to my employees more ex Oh, all of these similarities of what we have, but we do spend so much time just focusing on one at this, this race be. So I love hearing you say all those things Jr. And I think both really before I'd say these last couple of years, I felt more in the the quiet camp, if you will. I didn't view myself as racist, but I wasn't necessarily a, a big voice about anything he, you know, and, and I know a lot of different people, who've kind of fallen in that, but now it's just, all right, now we're just gonna talk a lot about more. I mean, I know my family, we've talked more about race is last year with our kids and they go to Walnut Hills. So I love it because they get diversity and, and in every way and Zim, lot of good stuff, I I'm optimistic.

(34:03): And I, and I don't, I think it's, it might be challenging times, but I also feel like a lot of the things are being a lot of positive things that are being re phase. And hopefully we're treating them as things that can turn out to be super positive. Yeah.

(34:17): Well, it's awesome to have, you know, someone like you strong in your face, strong and home strong in that to be a voice, which is, which is exciting. So you say you feel that calling from God, man. I just, I just encourage and, and affirm me to go, go do that, go be that voice. And, and and, and to help us, you know, the rest of us trying to figure this out. So that's pretty cool. And it's a big challenge. I get it.

(34:41): Yeah, it is. Yup.

(34:44): Excited about hearing these next 30 days.

(34:47): Well, I'm excited about this vacation and I'm getting ready to take my wife. We haven't, we go down and say, Xes, the keys Sarasota a couple of times a year. And we haven't been able to do that since COVID, so it's just a, his and her trip. And so I'm super excited about that. Excited about the summer just to get started, man, people getting outside and, you know, just, you know, just getting together for barbecues and whatever it might be inside to see my family more this summer. And so, you know, really just more around just getting, getting together with friends and family. I think we need it. We, we hugged.

(35:20): So you know,

(35:22): He right now in the business or the next 30, 60 days is busy time for us. And so that's a, we got some, some important meetings coming up that I hope we'll, we'll hopefully we'll nail and, you know, make it, make it a good second, third quarter. Oh man. It's great. Jared. What's the best

(35:38): Way for people to get ahold of you? Yeah, man, I'm super easy to get ahold of. You can always shoot me a text (513) 284-9128 or just my email, which is Jr foster at Robert Lewis, capital.com and Louis L O U I S. Oh man. It's good stuff. Thanks so much for being on the podcast and sharing your wisdom with the and first audience. That's great, man. This is awesome. Great platform. Thanks for having me look forward to hearing some more your, your, your folks come online. Awesome. Well, thank you. All right. Thank you.

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