Welcome to the win at home first podcast. I'm your host, Corey Carlson. This podcast is where we talk about how successful business leaders win, not only at work, but also at home. On this podcast, we will go behind the scenes with great leaders to hear stories of how they win. Thank you for listening and on to today's episode.
Hello, this is Corey. I'm excited to bring you today's episode with Todd Uttar. Stott. You'll hear more about him in just a minute, but some of the items we talk about today are so helpful. We talk about the importance of listening, not trying to solve how we can get tripped up at work and at home, always trying to solve the problem. We talk about validating, validating, others, validating our ideas and how we think through. We talk about a habit. He started a year ago when he hit a low point and that habit he's still doing to this day.
(00:53): And matter of fact, it's going to not only continue that habit, but pull more people into it. It's an awesome episode. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. Thank you very much for listening. Hello is Corey Carlson. You're on the win at home first podcast. I'm excited about today's guest, Todd Uttar, Stott. He runs, he does a variety of different things. First of all, I want to thank him. He was in the army, which is super grateful for that and your service. Thank you for doing that. And then he went on to in the corporate world as well as he's an executive coach now, but one of the neat things he does now is he has from founder to CEO podcast, he's had over 350 episodes. He's had Seth Godin. He's had Mark Randolph, one of the cofounders of Netflix on there. So a lot of just neat things that he's done. He's a wealth of knowledge. I met him probably about a year ago and I still look back at some of the notes that I took while we were having breakfast at first watch. So, you may not believe me, but you're talking about multiple revenue streams, Todd, and I was taking notes and I loved it. So I'm glad you're on the show. Thank you very much.
(01:59): It was my pleasure. Well, I listened to your podcast too, and I learn all the time too, because I do think that winning at home first is what we should, what we should be striving for. Yeah.
(02:07): Yeah. Well, well thank you. Thanks for being a listener. That's awesome. And so in today's podcast, what I'm excited about is you're married have two kids. Plus you've got a full time demanding job and your wife works and also has a demanding job. So I guess to start out with, you know, what are you seeing as traits that you need to win at home first? Like, what do you need to do? What are the, the, the things that you need to recalibrate to, or having in mind as you move forward?
(02:37): Well, I'm sharing this room cause I'm not always good at it. Right. You know what I mean? That what we strive for sometimes it's also what we're not very good at, but I do think that listening without trying to solve, as opposed to listening, to validate someone's thoughts, feelings, ideas, you know, we talk about lots of different ways. But I like to think about it that way because you know, I, I'm a coach every day and I'm always trying to help solve people's problems. But you know, my wife recently went through a job change and a significant amount of my time with her on it was just listening to her and validating her concerns without me vinyl leap in and tear some people apart about it. And, you know, cause some people weren't being very nice to her about it on anyway. So I think just to validate, you know, I once read this book that talks about there's two big ways that you can influence people.
(03:32): One is to validate their needs, hopes, fears, and concerns, and help them get what they want. And so I think, you know, I think that the trade is it's easy to say listening, but I think it's listening without trying to solve. It's listening to validate. What, what do you think? I think that's great. I think, especially for you and I, as coaches, I get in trouble a lot where I want to solve my wife's problems right away. I've got the answer. Let's just, Hey, you need to think about these three steps. You need to think about this, the shape. This will help add backfired. And there are times I have asked my wife, what hat do you want me on for this? You want me to be a spouse? Or do you want me to be a coach? And I will tell you 99% of the time.
(04:15): It's no kidding. It really is actually, which is kind of weird. Maybe it's actually a hundred percent. I'm just trying to give myself a little credit. And then your, your wife you've actually had to not only you launching, not launching, but now you're running a successful business yourself, but you've had a step up even more as a spouse because your wife's a physician we're in the middle of COVID we're in the middle of just a lot of stresses. So you've had a not only try to grow your business, but also probably step it up a little bit more at home, leaving your two kids. Well, plus whatever. Maybe there's a lot of listening that you're having to do with her now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hard. You know, I'll probably get a little emotional about this because like many others who can't work from home, if they're first responders, firefighters, policemen, healthcare workers, nurses, you know, you know, my wife goes to work every day with the prospect that she would get COVID-19.
(05:14): And so every night at dinner, when we gather for dinner we pray that not only she is safe, but all her colleagues and all her patients and everyone she sees, she can see sometimes, you know, up to like 35 patients a day. And so that's a lot of exposure that a lot of people go through every day. And it's a little bit easy for me to get hold of my office here and maybe you as well and transition some of our work to online. But I tell people all the time I watched an OB GYN. So they say, Oh, well, could your wife do telemedicine? I said, kind of hard to do pap smears and deliver babies remotely. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows in time, there may be something you can. Wow. So that's, I mean that's yeah. That is a stress that your
(05:58): Family has that I know mine doesn't because we're not going into first being a first line, you know, responder. So thank you to your wife and thank you to you. Cause that's, that's tough for sure.
(06:10): Do it for a long time. 21 years, she's been doing this, we've been married 19. So, you know, you learn to make some modifications and along the way, but I feel fortunate. She works at a great hospital in Cincinnati and they do a lot of great things to keep their patients healthy and safe as well as everyone on the team there. So,
(06:29): So as you built your career, I mean, you left another consulting company as you know, starting your own. And now from founder to CEO, about five years, you've been doing this podcast. So you've been building, you know, an entrepreneurial demanding career. I just getting started. So I can already feel there's a, there's some different stresses than when I had my corporate job, but still you've done that. And how have you continued to lead well at home? Are you, you have some different rhythms that you're using or different boundaries that would be helpful to other listeners is they have their spouse also works. Yeah.
(07:05): You know, I think first and foremost, when she's not call in the hospital we all go to church together every Sunday. And that's a very grounding thing for us for a while. We were doing it remotely. And when we did it remotely, we all watched it together on TV. Now we try to go back in person and everyone's wearing masks. So that's one number two is whenever possible. We family dinner together. Yeah. And either I cook or my wife cooks occasionally my daughter, who's becoming a budding cook. Does it as well. And I don't know, we have my my wife's cousin has this really cool dice that we bought recently. It has you'd roll it. It has a different type of prayer, all sides of the dice and you spin it and to get a different pair each time. And there's fun. So we've added that to our dinnertime prayer, which has been, you know, gamifying prayer a little bit
(07:57): Am prayer, bringing dice and gambling in there.
(08:01): It's silly, but it's fun because there's a different prayer on each side of the Dyson
(08:06): One example of one of the, the size of a dice,
(08:10): The typical one that you say, thank you, Lord, for the blessings that we have at this dinner. And for all the people that brought their hands that brought the food to the stable, I think that's where it goes. And so they're actually kind of slightly different than the normal prayers. And that's what makes it kind of fun. They're not the typical dinnertime prayers.
(08:27): Okay. I didn't know if it was like topics like, you know, pray for somebody else on your street, pray for somebody else at your work. No, no. I may make that dice.
(08:37): Yeah. Yay. I'm telling you and my daughter, she's usually the one that likes to spin it. And so that's a job she has. And anyway, it's just a different way of being able to kind of have a little bit of fun with that. Let me do that. And then one of the things we love to do is Corey, I don't know if you've been there or not, but the Hocking Hills, Ohio, do you know Hocking Hills at all? We have been there. Yes. Oh my gosh. It's, it's, it's our bliss place. We are there maybe once or twice a year. There's lots of caves that we do hiking out there. So we'd like to hike as a family and going out there and to a cabin and just with our family and going hiking and make dinner together. That is super blissful. So those two things are constants in our crazy.
(09:20): Yeah, that's good. I actually got a selfish question. When you do the Hocking Hills, when you go to those type of places and knowing you're the spiritual leader of your home, plus you got all kinds of different content that you're stirring in your head. Do you come to some of those weekend family retreats with content or, you know, I want to talk about these different items or not, and you just kind of wing it.
(09:43): That's an interesting question. I don't come to many family, get togethers with content, be honest with you. Cause I have found over the years as a coach and a content creator and all kinds of stuff, they don't want me there for that. Okay. And quite frankly, you know, my kids, my son, daughter had been listening to me, edit podcasts for years and whatnot. They get a little sick and tired of it. So the content that we take with us when we go out to Hocking Hills, our board games, all different types of board games and we love board games and I get tired of it all too. You know, I need a little bit of break too. So, you know, and I'm, you know, we, we, we don't bring all that stuff. We don't, Todd doesn't bring his, his stuff like that.
(10:25): Yeah, no, that's good. And there's, I mean, for us, there's a lot of tech talk. There's a lot of throwing the football. I have one boy, two girls. And so there's a lot of those pieces, but I know there's things that I've seen that I liked that others are doing that I'm like, Oh, I want to bring it like such as, you know, create a vision and values for your family, which we have done. And I talk about how, how that start off as a train wreck, but it ended well, you know, different like planning, like what's our goals for the year, just different pieces like that. So I was curious from your perspective, how you have done that, have you done family planning and vision values on retreats? Have you done it from home? Has it been structured or just, we just kind of kind of piece it together organically.
(11:10): We kind of piece it together organically on somewhat unstructured. So on Sunday nights and we'd like to play a board game and we take a look at the calendar and we talk about how the activities that we're doing that week contribute to our goals. So my son's looking at colleges right now and I thought it was going to go into eighth grade. And so we kind of talked through those issues on Sunday nights after we play board games and have dinner together. And so that's kind of our way of reconnecting to what's important to us as individuals and also as a house, as a family. And it's also calendar calendar, coordination time too, because there's so much going on. We have to review our calendars together to make sure everything is aligned. And it's also reminder of what chores did or did not get done, need to get done another week. So yeah. So when you talk about when at home, like from my wife, when Todd the bathroom cleaner, make sure that the bathrooms are all cleaned. That's how I went.
(12:08): That's exactly right. It is, you know, it's something Holly and I learned is there were things I was cleaning the house that I thought were important that I thought she should think were important and come to find out. She really did not care if there was dust on or off the ceiling fans that was important to me, but that get zero points. Matter of fact, if it takes me away from cleaning something that she does things important, and I probably actually get negative points for cleaning the dust off the ceiling fan.
(12:34): Exactly. I discovered that too. I'm like, well, like all for example, I'm like, I like to make sure that the trees in our yard are trimmed and I'm so excited to make the appointment and she's got train and whatnot. And he was like, yeah, okay. It's the bathroom clean? So good. You know, I mean, I think we all learn what our spouses find to be the most important thing in the household that they prize that if you take care of it for them, when you show a love by taking action on something, then it has great meaning. It's the bathrooms.
(13:10): That's good. Well, thanks for joining this podcast instead of cleaning the bathrooms makes you happy.
(13:15): Yeah. I just did it yesterday, so I'm going to go. I'm good. Right. Good. You're good.
(13:20): Hello. This is Cory Carlson. Thank you very much for listening to this podcast. I greatly appreciate it. If things that we're saying or you're hearing what the guests are talking about, and you want to see how it can apply to your life and you want to dive deeper into the content. And I invite you to visit my website at Corey M Carlson to learn more about my coaching program, what I'm doing for clients like you and how it can help you start winning vote at home and at work and living a life to the full. So thank you very much for listening and back to today's episode. Thank you. As you've built your career, there's been times that you haven't been winning at home because you've been super head down launching the podcast or a big project, or I know you also have some video courses that you offer. I know those take time. I do the same. So for you, when those times you weren't winning at home, because your head down on the business, how did you recalibrate? And even not only for you personally, but maybe that's a tie into from founder to CEO, what you're seeing other leaders have.
(14:25): Yeah. I'll tell you a very specific story of though. I won't tell names because you know, some of the names at the same time. So my S my daughter was having some difficulty in school and it wasn't turning out to be the best environment for her. And, you know, she was behaving in a certain way that was unlike her. And we kind of noticed, but I did not do a very good job of deep dive, listening, even deeper. I mean, I heard the stories, but I didn't quite put it all together. And I'm usually really good at, I mean, I hear these stories every day, all day of how people are getting along, and this leader is not there and this person is doing that. And so I'd like to think that I did a good job listening, but I don't think I did. And so my wife and I, we got really serious about it.
(15:15): And we said, okay, what's going on here? And we had lots of conversations with my daughter, and it turns out we actually moved her from the school that she was in into another school. And it has been life altering for her in a, such a positive way. And for all of us as a family, because her stress is not as high anymore. And so, you know, the calibration was what I mentioned to you at the beginning of our conversation, which is listening to validate and hear as opposed to listening, to take action. As I wish I would have listened to a little bit more deeply when we first started seeing these signs. So we could've maybe taken action a little bit sooner, but because I did do a very good job of listening, she, wasn't also as revealing about her feelings, you know? Cause there are times I'm sure you noticed that there are times where your kids they're a little bit more sharing than, than other like places and times, right. Have you seen this and you kind of got to get in like the know of that. And as soon as those time periods, do they feel like they're sharing, alright, drop what you're doing, right. Because it's hard to kind of recover from that special moment.
(16:27): Oh absolutely. And even working from home, I can run upstairs, which I'm crazy grateful. I get the opportunity to do that and to get a snack and refill the water or whatever. And that's when they want to talk and I got to run back down, I got five minutes exactly. To open up and share everything is no, not yet. And so, yeah. And then the times I've got time now, maybe that's when they're well that's so that's cool. You took action. Cause I'm sure that changed a whole bunch of different parts of your guys' family rhythm and the connections you had at the old school. And I know
(17:05): It was painful because yeah. We had relationships and yeah, it was very, very painful, but you know, I mean we got first and foremost is my wife and I, and then our kids and, and so yeah, it was very difficult, but I'm grateful that we made the decision now in retrospect, but I just wish we would have, I would have personally have paid a little bit more attention earlier.
(17:27): That's good. That's good. I love how you said first relationship is your wife and I, and then your kids, when in the book went home first, I did it in four parts. You being, you know, yourself, then your marriage and then kids then work. That's cool. And that's, you know, you and I have similar values for sure. What about the you part? What are you doing Todd to, to help you to help elevate your mindset? I know you mentioned church earlier, there are things that you do to help put you in that right place. Right? Give yourself oxygen. Before you put oxygen on someone else's face. What are some of the things that you do?
(18:05): So I have a very specific one. That's relatively new about two weeks ago is my one year anniversary that I have not missed a day in praying the rosary. I'm Catholic every night before I go to bed. I mean, I have not missed a night and I don't want to ever attend to. And it has been transformational for me because my walk, a spiritual life is very important to me and also understanding to a greater degree, my faith and the rosary has been such an amazing transformational tool to be able to do that. And it has gotten to the point now where I'm probably going to launch what we are going to launch. Two other friends of mine, a a man's group called rosary man, where we're going to pray the rosary together at work once a week. And so it's transformational for me to incorporate that I've always kind of known about the rosary, but I haven't really intersect one of those things. So it's one of those Catholic things. Right. And, but when I got intentional about it, I changed it,
(19:07): Man. So good. One question I just have out of that, I'm not Catholic and they're some of the things I have thought as I've gone to a Catholic church, or like, how do you get involved or, I mean, not how do you get deep into a message? Like when I go to a big mega church here in Cincinnati and I can leave that church sometimes crying and sometimes just excited sometimes it's just, it's awesome. And then when I've been in the Catholic church in some has been recited, it's like, how do you get in the groove here? So for the prayer of the rosary, it's a little bit recited. So how has it, how did it just help me understand just a little bit of how does that become transformational
(19:45): Catholic mass? We have the homily, which is where we bring the Bible to life and connect it to modern day times and issues. And so I often leave church really inspired or moved or more thought provoking because we have some great homeless at our church. Awesome. And the rosary is an interesting tool because there are five decades. And so there are five mysteries per each one. So each night of the week. So Monday night is a sorrowful. Mr. The joyful mysteries Tuesday night is the cell phone mysteries. Wednesday is the glorious Thursday's luminous. And then it repeats itself. Friday was sorrowful. Saturday is joyful and Sunday's luminous, but each night is different. Each night is different and you meditate upon the mysteries and that meditation. I have, I have a little guidebook that helps me meditate on the mysteries as well. And so I always find some nuance, some insight, some phrase, something that catches me that has caught me before and allows me to think more deeply about the message of that mystery. And so that's how, that's how it helps me, man.
(20:55): That's cool. And I love the one is different, but just like one word will be different each night for you. Exactly. Reading scripture is I can read the same verse. Hey, when I'm trying to talk to my kids about scripture, my kids will be like, I already know that verse.
(21:14): I know. I know because you hear it differently.
(21:16): Yeah. It's like, and I, you know, and just, I know that they don't have it memorized, but it's like, I already know that story. It's like, Oh, come on, come on.
(21:23): The next step is, I know I'm going to try and say, I'm trying to try and say a Psalm every morning, like how the Psalms opened up and every morning. So this is 150 of them. I'm going to try it every morning. Like read one and meditate on that one.
(21:35): Oh man. It's cool. The prayer of the rosary. How long does that take per night?
(21:40): Usually an average takes about 20 minutes for most people. But for me it is, it takes about 45 minutes. Oh
(21:47): Yeah. That's awesome. Very good. I don't know if that's awesome. You just ask about that because whether it's the prayer of the rosary or whether it's some you know, whether it's a Christian prayer or even in the secular, although other religions are doing it, just gratitude, write down three things. You're grateful for. It's just that consistent every night, I'm going to kind of submit to meditation, getting off Netflix, getting off my Facebook or whatever it is, and just be still prayer, meditate, write down what I'm grateful for. So I just think that's pretty cool.
(22:26): I do too. It's funny. You said that because I always recommend to people. I even have a written in my book here answering these five questions once a week. What am I feeling grateful for? When my feeling optimistic about what am I still wondering about? What do I feel discouraged about? And when I'm feeling worried about, and to get that stuff out of your head and into out a piece of paper, it is amazing how you can get clear headed about that.
(22:49): Yeah. I will be going back, listening to those five questions and then I've got a few that I like. I've got to ask. You made a comment that you started to pray the rosary a year ago. Yeah. I'm a big fan of moments of transformation. When, when it's like, I can't keep doing it my way. I need something new. Why did you decide all right, I'm going all in this prayer of the rosary. What happened a year ago? Or where were you at that your old tricks weren't working?
(23:15): Yeah, probably a confluence of a lot of issues. One Moz, my wife was going through some career challenges at the same time. She had a significant health issue where she was in pain all the time. And that combined with, you know, big decisions with my son and the, and the situation with my daughter. So almost everyone in my family is having some sort of big challenge or issue that I needed to be strong. So I felt like, you know what? I need to submit myself to the Lord and that's Lord, I need your help. And mother Mary, I need your help and intercede for me. And so once I did that on the guiltier, I tell you this, I just, it was just, I don't want to say magical, but it's just transformational because it was hard when you have everyone in your family struggling. And my day job is helping everybody with their struggles too, you know? And so that everyone in my family was having struggles and except our dog, he seemed to be okay. And so I was like, you know what, I'm just going to give it up to the Lord. And, and the rosary is a big part of the, of of our face. And I know has been transformational for many others in our faith. So I said, you know, I'm going to try it and I love it.
(24:30): And here you are a year later it's been a streak. And now you're looking to take another step and pull some other men in. And I love that. That's cool way to go. Thanks. Thank you. The quarantine has changed many of our lives, some for better, some for worse. And how have, how has it changed you from a mindset standpoint, a rhythm, a schedule going kind of where we're at right now? I don't even know if we can say we're in the middle of the quarantine or we're near the end. We will save that for another day. But what has changed that you're like, you know, some of this stuff I want to keep, so when we do come to this new normal, I'm keeping it, what are some of the things that you're doing because of the quarantine now that you're going to do your best to keep and not fall back into old ways, kind of the idea of new wine in old wine skin like this, we have a, we have some new wine happening. And so we don't go back to that old wine skin like that.
(25:27): I'm going to steal that. Well, what are the things, you know, talk about before you hit the record button was I, I've invested a lot of time and resources into continuing to train, develop me. And I joined like three courses in the last couple of months and they've been really wonderful. And, you know, I have a master's degree in undergraduate degree and I'm always reading. I mean, he looks behind me. You're a big reader too, but it's nice to be able to be part of a curated learning experience that has been developed specifically for what you're looking for and being part of community of people who do that. And I do that for people. And I said, you know what, I'm going to do that for myself right now. And so I do want to continue that, although right now taking three at the same time is probably a little bit too much. Right. But I'm going to, I'm going to commit to, you know, doing that on a regular basis now kind of mixed space in my life since I had a little more space during COVID-19 a little bit more, cause I have it on, when that will happen. I was on a phone like 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM with all of our clients who are in distress. And then once they settled into their new pattern, then I was able to get a little time back. So you know what time to invest in myself.
(26:39): Yup, absolutely. What I love about what you're talking about is there's, there's two different types of people. We've seen this quarantine, those that are fearful and say passive, like, well, I'm just gonna wait and see what happens. And then there's, Oh, others that are being bold and investing. I myself have invested more into my business and myself and so far in 2020 than I have in years before. And so it sounds like you're doing the exact same thing and hiring some different coaches and guides to get you through as well as just different programs to help scale your business.
(27:15): Yeah. Well, I mean, you and I were talking about where we've both been doing that and it's hard. I think when you're the one who's helping everyone else, you could get into a pattern of not investing in yourself. And then what you find is I think maybe I don't know what you think about this, but you find a like, okay, maybe I've plateaued a little bit. Maybe I really need to reinvest in someone's areas of my own development so that I can continue to serve people that I serve. And yeah, it's been great. It's so great. It's been a lot of work, but it's been great. Yeah. As you were saying, some of these programs nowadays, we'll watch a lot of videos, do some homework, you know, do some inner group, small group interaction and that's time.
(27:55): It is very time consuming. Very, and this one as you can't do it from eight to five, because that's what we're working with, our clients. So I get it. Yeah. I have enjoyed about spending the money on courses or in coaches is the actual, it helps me implement because I too like to rate you and I both have podcasts, so we're pro podcasts, but in reality, I'll say this and I've said it numerous times. There's so much information out there that if you're not implementing, nothing's changing and I can go listen to all the podcasts. I can read all the books, but sometimes I just get there and I'm like, I don't know what to implement. I forgot. I've got all these notes I've been taking. I don't know what to do with it. And it's actually nice to have that coach guide programmed actually say, do this. And it's like, thank you. I read these 10 ideas I went through. They're just like, do this help you focus
(28:50): Sometimes like people ask us that too. Right? Corey. Yeah. Right. And sometimes you don't have the exact answer, but the 75% solution answer is good enough to keep get known. Cause you'll figure it out. But you got, it's got like a Dory and then when we got to keep on swimming, right. I gotta keep on moving.
(29:09): Yup. Yeah. I mean, I love the phrase. It's, you know, it's a lot easier to move a mysterious ship. That's moving.
(29:15): Oh yeah, yeah. That's right. Yeah. I don't think I've heard it that way before, but that's I like it.
(29:19): Well, I mean, butchered it, Oh, you know, who knows? You know, so anyways, I like asking people on the show and you've already kind of mentioned a few. That could be it, but is there been a time in your life where you felt God telling you, Hey, Todd, your stories are great little story, but it's time you hand over your story for a greater story. Is there something, as I say, it just comes to mind of yeah. There was a time I had to kind of lay down my story for a greater story. Yeah.
(29:50): Yeah. It was probably, that was probably when I started my podcast because well, if I'm interpreting your question the right way. Yeah.
(29:58): Well, and what I like about your podcast real quick before you go is I remember one guy when I told him I was coaching, he told me somewhat of a derogatory way. I've been doing coaching since, before it was cool. So I can say to you, because I'm the, I'm the, I'm the younger one in this, in this as far as tenure, I can say to you, Hey, you were doing podcasting before as cool. You, you knew as a platform. Well,
(30:23): I don't know. I didn't really do it with a lot of strategic planning in mind, but I do think that, you know, I just had so many people calling me all the time, needing help founders. They're graduating from incubators and accelerators in the Midwest. And you know, I had my, our business is doing great. And, but I felt this calling to say, Todd, but all these other people in this other area, they need your help. And so I'd like to think that when I started my podcast, it was all the strategic plan and the podcast is to fit in this spot and it's by what it wasn't. And for a long time, didn't make any money. It just consumed a lot of my time and energy. And but I, I think it was the right thing to do. You know, we're five years old this year and now I get to talk to people like, you know, the founder of Netflix and zoom and fresh books.
(31:14): And and, and I've learned so much from many of them. And I feel like that they have filled my bucket so I can do a better job of filling other founders buckets. And so it's really a privilege and I was starting probably hit record. I get lots of pitches via email, and it's very time consuming to interact with everyone because I feel, you know, as a Christian man, I feel like, okay, well, everyone's reached out to me for a reason. I want them to treat them with respect and dignity. And even the ones that have to let them know, I'm sorry, but what your, your profile and your story is not really a fit for our show. We have a very specific format. And I try to do that with a lot of grace because I don't think I told you this story before, because five years ago, when I first started out a founder, a relatively well known founder, I'm not gonna say his name.
(32:03): Cause I don't want to do that to him. I reached out to him and said, Hey, I would love to have you on my show. Here's the show's about, I haven't told them why, you know, we've been around very long and he wrote back to me, so snarky, so nasty says, well, why would I go on your show? You're nobody, you don't hardly have any listeners. And why would I waste my time? Is that? And the other? And I was like, Oh my goodness. Like, all you have to do is saying you're busy, not a problem. You know? And I felt horrible after that. And I vowed I've out to if he ever called me again to have him on the show. And if he ever, and to also try to make sure I'm kind and generous when I have to say no to someone that they may not be the best fit for the show.
(32:47): And so it's hard to do that at scale. Okay. I mean, I've got some people on my team. I actually have, I hired a podcast, producer, Nancy, and she is amazing. And she's one of the reasons why we get lot of these great, wonderful guests on our show. But you know, I had to hand it over to God at the time and say, all right, is this what I'm supposed to be doing? Because I really don't see a way to make money on this right now. Okay. And yeah, but now helps. And now it's a big part of,
(33:15): Of what we do. Yeah. I mean, that's a great point. It's just because you feel it's a God calling doesn't mean it's easy back. There's going to be, there's going to be opposition. I mean, anytime we're doing something good and there's opposition, it's kinda, I hate to say it's good. There's opposition. Cause it's means we're stirring up the devil. He's getting mad that we're actually doing something.
(33:34): Well, you know, I just feel like founders have so much influence on the current and the future of our, of our world and our country and our regions that I just feel called to make sure that they have well, that we preserve that special quality about them, about building something from nothing, which is one of the reasons why we're going to be launching our membership platform soon found her life because I truly believe we've got to help founders work stress free and make a bigger impact and live a great life themselves because the Lord has given us these great people to renew the face of the earth with different businesses and services to help us all live well. And, and and but many times 90, 94%. So I have global said, Corey of founders have experienced stress, anxiety, depression, some are suicidal. And it's in mental health is a real big issue right now in startups. And I have a big impact on that
(34:31): 94%. Well, the other 6% are too stressed to take the quiz. I mean, come on.
(34:38): That's a good point. Yeah.
(34:41): I could keep going. Time is flying by. So thank you very much for being on the show, taking the time on it. And just with two fun questions, what are you reading right now?
(34:51): Russell Brunson's book called traffic secrets. Are you familiar? Did you get it yet?
(34:56): I have not got it. I have it. One of his other ones. And once you do anything with Russell, it's now my Facebook feed every course, every minute I just need to buy it. So it goes away from it.
(35:06): Exactly. Exactly. So traffic secrets, truth be told. That's what I'm reading. And I'm also reading Jim Edwards book, copywriting secrets. Cause I've got to get better about it.
(35:15): I just saw that one also on my feet. Cause he didn't shoot that.
(35:18): Yes he did.
(35:20): And then secondly, what are you most excited about in the next 30 days? Yup.
(35:25): Next 30 days we are course stress free. Founder goes live on August 12th and where we only accept seven founders and we help them create a formula. That's personalized to them to work
(35:38): Stress free. And it's the first time we're offering it as a group. I did it a couple weeks ago for one founder and kind of similar stuff for other founders, but I'm super excited because we've kind of approved the process for that. I'll hopefully there's a founder listening or, or all seven are listening and can reach out to you. Thank you, Michelle. What's the best way for my listeners to get ahold of you are probably on LinkedIn and my email Todd from founder to ceo.com. Awesome. Well thank you very, very much for being on the show. Thank you. It's been a pleasure.
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