Hi there. I'm Jill Allen and this is find your fierce, the show designed for women to discover your fierce, unlock and unstoppable mindset. Build unbreakable courage and completely transform how you show up every single day. Each week I will bring ideas, methods and strategies that will inspire you to step into your greatness and live life on purpose. Let's be fit, fierce and unstoppable.
(00:36): Hey there, welcome to find your fierce so glad that you guys are here. It's always a good time and I'm super excited about today's show. I met this friend of mine, actually, not too long ago. She has been so pivotal in my faith walk and we just immediately connected. And so I'm so glad that she's here. She lifts people up to their fullest potential, and it's absolutely amazing. Introducing you to my friend, Kim, Kim and her husband. Matt are the directors of roar house ministries and healing room. So be sure to follow them on social media, but Kim is here. Welcome. How are you? Hey, Jill, I'm so excited to be here today with you. It's an honor, just to be able to come on and chat with you and talk about whatever it is that the Holy spirit has planned. Yeah, I absolutely love it.
(01:20): Thank you for taking the time to, you know, reach and connect with each and every one of our listeners. You know, I know we were talking about what we were going to talk about today. We were talking a little bit about how women, you know, so often are showing up in the world, not knowing that there's even more, there's a little bit more out there for them. They might feel it in their gut. I know there's a quote. It is what it is. And there's a part of me that there was always something that it just got under my skin a little bit like, Oh, I'm not sure if I agree with that. And but I know there's also another part of, you know, being able to let go and not always fight everything that, you know, Hey, you're not in control, but that is what it is.
(02:07): I mean, what do you think on that immediately, whenever you, we started talking about this, it was almost like this is it. As you were writing, I wrote down the word settling. I feel like whenever people are well we're in our lives and we're living our lives a certain way. And unfortunately I think a mantra or a saying became it is what it is for most people, because it was like, well, I'm just going to accept this journey the way it is. And there's nothing really I can do about it. And we're just going to live our lives like this. And it became almost a accepted excuse if you will on, well, you know, my family is always going to have this disease or I'm plagued by this, this generational curse of illness or, you know, the women in my family are never going to get along with the daughters, or there's always going to be this thing coming around and going around our family. And this is, it just is what
(03:00): It is. And it becomes like, well, it's an accepted thing. Like, Oh, you know, my family has alcoholism running in it or yada yada yada. And what happens is we become complacent and okay with the way things are. But my whole life was not like my life radically transformed and I became not okay with it is what it is anymore. And it became more of it is what it is and I'm identifying it now. And now that I know that it is what this is, then I'm going to go after it and get eradicated from my life. And that's really what I've become so passionate about now is not settling anymore for it is what it is. And instead I'm going after, well, what does God say? It is?
(03:38): Yeah. Well, and we know what we're fighting against versus just fighting in general and going aimlessly or just accept.
(03:47): Well, you know, it's interesting you say that, Jill, I think some people don't know what they're fighting against. I think it's 50 50. If I'm going to be totally transparent right now, I think it's a 50 50. And I only say that because I mean, I'm a 45 year old mom and for 42 years of my life, I didn't know what I was fighting against. It felt like I was fighting an uphill battle and I was carrying a looseleaf notebook, fighting a grizzly bear in the snow, but I was not, I was not okay. You'll get that. I can't it. I just use that metaphor. My dad used to say that to me all the time.
(04:20): It did, it gave me a really good visual, but some people don't know what they're fighting. Some people think that they're just fighting an endless cause. And when reality is, if we could really be clear about what is it that we're fighting, we're fighting against forces of good versus evil. We're fighting against, you know, the Lord's plan of our life over our life and the enemy not wanting us to embrace it. That's what we're fighting against. So this is what it is. Thing makes us want to stay on the fence. And when reality, we gotta jump off the fence and we got to choose one of these.
(04:51): Yeah. And it's not necessarily what we see right now. I mean, we see it, but it's what's under the surface. We can't just start. We just can't start hacking branches and fighting aimlessly. We need to actually get to the root of it. That resonates so much because
(05:10): That actually takes me right into my number one most favorite scripture that literally I would believe was the one scripture that I memorized first that I had never memorized before. But I clung to this scripture in the most desperate time of my life when I was pretty sure that our marriage was not going to make it. And it was Hebrews 11, one in the scriptures, Hebrews 11 one, it says faith is being sure of what you hope for and certain of what you do not see. And I remember that scripture being so profound and I grasped the meaning because everything that I wanted, everything that I had dreamed as a young girl, everything that I wanted in my marriage, I could see it in my imagination, but it not there in the natural. And so that scripture was something that helped me to clean to what I'd hoped for, because I was certain, I did not see it,
(06:04): Not usually at the breaking or the breaking point for people, they don't have. I mean, if they don't have that hope or that faith or that vision, then it comes to an end and it goes back to it is what it is and this abrupt stop of not being able to move forward. Yeah. Because they're fighting against the wrong thing.
(06:25): Yes. So I'm sure people are probably listening right now and saying, well, how did it change for you? Like what happened to you? What was it? That was the pivotal moment in my life. And I've talked about this quite a bit with people is and pray for this for a lot of people. My friends is for them to have an encounter. I believe in an encounter with the father is what changed my life. And I was also in a position in desperate enough that I was willing to hear what he had to say and allow him to do something with me. And that really is the, I would say a pivotal point in my life. I mean, some people were not going to have to be like, well, my life isn't that bad. And I have everything. I mean, at the end of the day I had a husband, I had four amazing children, but my only, and I was always not only rejecting people, but I was expected rejection. I was expecting you to reject me. So I would reject you first. And I was not allowing people to get close to me because of fear of rejection because of the expectation that I had on myself. And so things have to get so low and so desperate that you're just, you want to change.
(07:29): You have to fit that rock bottom, whatever that may be.
(07:32): Right. So let me share with you what, one of my Rockwell. So I have a lot of testimonies, different areas of growth in my life, but my rock bottom was I was in the best shape of my life. I was 42 years old. I had lost 50 pounds. I was top 10 in the state of Kentucky as a CrossFit athlete and as a 42 year old woman. So that's a big deal. Oh yeah. I was so proud of my body. I was doing pushups, pull ups, muscle bar pull up chin-ups I was doing every single thing in the CrossFit environment that I could've never done. I was doing strict pull-ups. I mean, my body was cut. I was eating correctly. Everything was amazing. And I remember laughing and say, man, I was really CrossFit, but then I became cross fit. So my cross that went from muscles to the cross symbol and, and that's, that's where things shifted for me.
(08:20): And just in a brief nutshell of what that looked like, I was doing a workout and I don't blame it on this environment. I blame what I did was PRI and I was pushing through. And when I should have recognized that my body was tired and exhausted, I continue to push my body past the point of the brink of exhaustion. And when I did, I was doing a workout in, in specifically pushups and I was doing them the correct way. So I wasn't on my knees. And, you know, I always say that something like these are real pushups, that's the big deal for a woman. And I came up on my last pushup. And when I did, I felt my shoulder rip and I knew that it was bad because of the burn that I felt. And, and also I could not now move. I could not push up again. I could not move my arm. And when I ended up realizing was that, that, that injury was so significant that I tore my bicep tendon. I tore my labor in detached in, toward, off my shoulder. I tore my supraspinatus 95% of my inner Sunita, 75%. And it was significant. It was bad girl. It was so bad. I could not brush my hair. I could not dress myself. I could not take my pants down. I mean, it was, it was so bad and so painful. And that was a breaking point for me. Yeah.
(09:38): Yes. Like talk about stopping me in my tracks. It was like, everything stopped. And I had to self evaluate and I mean, think about it. I'm in pain. I can't work out. I can no longer the, the environment that I was, I was thriving in. It was kind of like I was watching all my friends over there, working out and here I sat realizing that I was broken. And that's what I felt. It needed down a rabbit hole into a vicious cycle, or back on a cycle that you probably didn't want to be on what happened. And I'm assuming this is going to lead to your encounter because I know it is. It is. So what happened next was I waited patiently for surgery and it took 15 weeks to wait by the 12th week. I was so miserable and in pain. And I was desperate because nothing was covering the pain.
(10:25): One of my friends invited me to a healing, prayer service at a church. And I was like, that's such a, that's like a real thing. I remember thinking what, like, people pray for people. Like, I'm sorry, what? And she's like, yeah, girl, they pray for people. And people are being healed. And I'm like, are you kidding me? Like they do that. And I know that sounds so crazy. Right? Cause I'm sitting there going, they really do that. But there's so many people that they don't realize that there's people who pray for people in their healed. I didn't. And so I I'm like, well, I'm so desperate. I remember Joe, I'm thinking I'm so desperate. I'm going to go. Cause there isn't any kind of medication that's working right now. We might as well try this. And I waited in line. I must've been behind 50, 50 to 75 people waiting my turn for this one woman who believed that Jesus was going to heal through her hand.
(11:11): And she just, she came up to me and she asked me, you know, what was going on to assess my pain level. I told her it wasn't another, it was past the tan. I couldn't raise my arm. I couldn't brush my hair. I couldn't do anything. And no joke. She's like, all right, well let's just pray. And she laid her hand on my shoulder and she said in jesus' name be healed. And I stood there for a moment and I was like, something happened. I felt, I felt something physically, my body Tingle or whatever. And she's like, well, can you lift your arm? And it's like, no, I can't lift it. She goes, well, why don't you try? And I tried. And all of a sudden, Joe, my arm went up in the sky and I could not wave my arm around. I could not move it and control it because there was no tendon connecting. But all of a sudden, now my arm is up in the air and I was, I started crying and people who knew me who knew the injury were like all in awe because they knew I could not lift my arm. They knew I couldn't.
(12:02): So how do you play that? I mean like, think about this. I mean, someone on here is listening and they're at their breaking point. They're at their desperation and they don't know where, what else to do, where to go to they're thinking it is what it is. I mean, how do you explain that? I mean, what, what do you say?
(12:18): I was astonished. I was like, Oh my gosh. Like I, all I knew was that I was moving my arm now and I was not in pain. And my pain scale was off the chart past the tin and I was crying and I was like, what is going on? And then of course, you know, you leave that situation. And I go home and I actually recorded my testimony live right after that happened, because I couldn't believe what was going on. And for eight days I was pain free. And I remember thinking, Oh my gosh, this is incredible. Like, I could not believe that my shoulder was not hurting, that I was sleeping again, that I was able to use it. And for eight days I was completely pain free.
(12:53): And I was like, what happened? Like, what is that
(12:56): Going on? This really is a thing. Like people pray in Jesus name and they're healed. And, and I began to realize that there is a whole nother world out there that really people are praying for people in Jesus name and they are being healed. Well, the ninth day my pain came back. I was so sad. I thought I'd lost my pain or my, my healing, not even really understanding what had been healed. All I know is what my MRI had said. So I go to my doctor appointment and he's going to do surgery because clearly I'm still in pain. And I thought it was, I'd lost it. Well, he says to me, Kim, I'm going to go in there and fix your shoulder. And you know, we're going to do whatever we gotta do. And I said, well, doctor, I said, well, you just make sure that I can get back on the pull up bar one day.
(13:35): And he said, absolutely. So he comes out of my surgery and looks at my husband. He says, you, I will not, you. I can't believe this. That's what he said. I can't believe this. He said I got into Kim's shoulder. And I pulled on her bicep tendon because it had read attached to her shoulder. He said, bicep, tendons, don't reattach and grow. And her labor and was completely reattached. Nothing was wrong with it. And the bicep tendon was attached to, it looked beautiful. He goes, I took pictures and he pulled on it and he said he said, I still had to S had to attach her inters Benetas. And her supraspinatus be it, those bands or whatever. But my tendon was completely reattached and heal. My doctor said, don't do that. And so when I found out about that,
(14:17): I knew that I knew that I knew
(14:19): It was a documented healing miracle and that I had encountered the Lord and he had done that for me. And some people have said, well, why did you, why do you think you only got a partial healing? Or why do you think this? And why do you think that? And I will tell you the answer. I know that what happened over the next year to two years, and now it's been almost for the process that the Lord has been walking me through of understanding discipleship, understanding him, understanding my journey. He, along the way through my physical therapist and through my doctors, I have developed relationships with that have been willing to talk to me about the truth and have been willing to talk to me about what God is doing in my life. And I really believe that was, it was all a divine plan. And because of course, can you imagine this girl over here, all I keep talking about is the documented miracle that I encountered. And I just keep sharing this testimony over and over again. And it impacts people. And it's, it's also just paving a way for me to be able to have these kinds of conversations like we are
(15:16): Today. Well, and you have to have those moments. We all have to have those moments. We have to be in the Valley for us to even be able to, you know, reach that top of the mountain and actually see what there is, is surrounding us and for us to be able to Uplevel and to break free.
(15:32): Yeah, well, I was spending all my time in CrossFit. I was working out about two hours a day, every day, working out training, stretching. I was very meticulous with my food. We meal prep all the time and I was very consumed with eating to perform, which is important when you're a good at when you're an athlete. But what was wrong was I was off balance. I was spending way too much time occupied and concerned about what I was doing with my body and not what I was doing in my marriage or my family. And looking back, I can see the areas where there could have been a severe breach by the enemy to destroy my marriage and destroy my family. Yeah. So I ended up walking this process out and have been now for over three years and the Lord has been so good to me and he has healed my marriage.
(16:20): He's healed. I've been, I've had the honor of, of walking out and seeing my husband baptized that about thing. One of my three sons baptizing my daughter and being also able to birth this healing ministry, which literally came out of a place of woundedness myself. And, but experiencing a miracle that I cannot deny. And now I just want to go and pray and lay hands on more people so that they can be healed in Jesus name because that's the whole desire and purpose of the Lord's kingdom is to have heaven on earth. And I'm just here to be a vessel for him. That's why we do it.
(16:57): We do. Yeah. And that would not have happened unless, you know, if you didn't go through that, that hardship am going to be completely transparent, honest. And I know we can have these talks. I mean, this sounds crazy. Yeah, it is. It is. I mean, to the average person, to the everyday person, to the person that maybe attends church and, you know, C and tens church reads the devotions, God does the Bible studies and that's who I was. That's said, this still sounds crazy. And I mean, what do you say? I mean, when you're helping people or in ear, someone again is listening to this and they're like with me, Joe, I totally agree. This sounds crazy. I mean, is this for me? Can it be more than it is what it is? I mean, what do you say, people that are like, maybe have that doubt or how do they get their encounter? Yeah.
(17:46): Yeah. Well, and I'm thank you for saying, because I'm the girl that was saying the same thing. I mean, giving you a background briefly, I was raised, born into a very religious family with no relationship with the Lord. I would have intermittent encounters of worship and seeing worship differently and by vacation Bible school, but not really knowing that there was something more. And I was like, what is happening to me? And why am I feeling these things? And I quickly realized that what I was feeling inside of me was called the Holy spirit and that the Holy spirit actually is an active and living part of the Trinity father, son, and Holy spirit. And that Holy spirit actually gives us power. And when I encountered all this and saw that this was a real thing, I didn't, I didn't know myself. And I'm like, Oh, I had to come to the conclusion where I was like, do I believe that the Bible is real?
(18:41): The Bible is real. I want to go see if it's in the Bible. And if it's in the Bible, which it was, then I was like, okay, there's something to this. And then when I realized what began to happen to me after my encounter was it was like, every time I stepped in the Lord would not only meet me there, but he would shower me with wisdom and he would shower me with breaking things open so that I could see things that I'd never seen before. And it reminds me of the scripture that I want to read to you in three . It's Matthew three 11, it says, ask for me, I baptize you with water because of your repentance. That is because you are willing to change your inner self, your old way of thinking, regret your sin and live a changed life. But he, the Messiah who is coming after me is mightier and more powerful and more noble than I, who sandals.
(19:30): I am not worthy to remove. Even as his sleep, he will baptize you, who truly repent with the Holy spirit and you will remain in with fire. So in that scripture, Matthew three 11, I went and found that scripture. And I was like, what is going on with me, Lauren? Like, I need to understand. And what I have been walking out and understanding is I'm here to tell you that there is an active and living God. And that what I had lived 42 years of my life opening my Bible every night. And then when I would sing a song, I would feel the spirit move. And I would feel something come over me, Jill, but never once. Did I have a full blown encounter where the Lord like, just swept over me. And if I were to tell you why I think it was because I didn't notice say have your way.
(20:17): Like I w I remember, I remember intentionally saying, God, I'm yours. Do what you want. I want a relationship with you, whatever it takes. And I really believe that that was a pivotal moment in my life. And it can be for anyone. It can be for anyone, because at the end of the day, I'm 45 now. And I encountered him at 42. And I remember one of my first questions was, but I haven't ever said it again. And I was like, well, where have you been all my life? Like, you know, I spent 42 years of my life looking for you thinking like, there's gotta be more. I remember thinking there's gotta be more like, why is everybody else over here having encounters and face on the ground and weeping, and like, just fully enjoy. I want that. I want that. I was so close to divorce.
(20:59): I was so close to being the angry soccer mom. I was so close to living that life. Jill and I just wanted an encounter. And, and when I just asked for him to come in, cause he said, gentlemen, that's when he did. Cause he's not going to force himself in. And yeah, I am, I guess you can now say I am the crazy girl because I am, I'm the one, if you're going, Jesus can heal you. I know he can. Cause I've seen, I mean, I've seen some radical miracle than healing and I know you've been around me and seeing it too. And so, but it is for everybody. It is, he is. So what I'm taking from this, you know, is that we have to lose the pride. Yeah. In create, change your thinking. I mean, we always hear mindset, coaches, change your thinking, change your life.
(21:40): And what does that Maxwell know? I forget, but it's kind of like a Jesus thing. Change your thinking. You're gonna change your life, open your heart. You're going to change your life. Like, yeah. And I'll tell you what, this is really going to challenge some people. But when I heard it the first time I was like, I want that. One of my mentors said that they, they, when they said yes to the Lord and they said yes to the ministry, specifically healing ministry, which MetLife said yes to, we decided that we had no rights and that we would be willing to get undignified. And when you have no rights, you don't get offended. You are simply a vessel for the Lord. And he has his way. And it is the most freeing place to live. Jill, because it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.
(22:25): I know that my God has my back and me sharing the story today is going to set a lot of people free and it's going to have them ask themselves, well, I want that. And where do I start? You know, what do I need to do to start and to break free that moment, this could be their encounter. Absolutely can be an interruption. This could be the place where you get undignified and that you allow the Lord to literally do and have his way with you. And it can simply be where you just say, because the Lord, the Holy spirit is a gentleman. He doesn't force himself upon us. And you can simply say, Lord, I am willing and I am yours. And I invite you to come in and have your way with me. And I pray, you know, that even as I'm speaking with some people right now are being like, that's me, that's me.
(23:15): And I just, I just agree with you right now in prayer. You know, I just say, yes, Lord, have your way with them. Come in and stir up their gifting, stir up the Holy spirit within them Lord and ignite them with the Holy spirit and then infuse them with the power that only you can give them and give them a hunger for the things of God to see and hear clearly what you have for them Lord. And it's in these moments where we just sit still and allow him to come in and just stir that you began to walk out one at a time, understanding who you are.
(23:47): Yeah. Wow. That's pretty, pretty powerful. I mean the freedom, the freedom, I think that is what people are wanting and they're not, then it goes back to how we started this whole entire conversation. We're not settling anymore. No, we're, we're breaking free. You know, we're drawing that line in the sand and you know, enough's enough of, I want more, I want what he has
(24:10): Those profoundly and strongly right now, Jill, because you know your whole purpose of teaching and equipping women to be fierce. This is what that looks like being, being fierce. I can feel the Holy spirit on this right now. So profoundly being fierce is when you realize that you are nothing without the one who gives you power. But if you allow him to give you the power, then you can walk into any environment and you can tap and pull on the gifts of the spirit, which are wisdom and knowledge and healing and miracles and faith. And you can step into an environment and God will literally download words of knowledge that you can be successful as an entrepreneur, he will download words of wisdom or knowledge to speak to your children, to speak to your husband. He will allow you to walk in and lay hands on someone who is sick and see them miraculously healed.
(25:00): And that is what being a fierce woman for the Lord sounds like and feels like it looks like. And I just think it's amazing that the Lord is allowing you to be a conduit and a vessel for these kinds of conversations, because I'm here to tell you right now, I am no longer settling for it is what it is. And I think that women around the nation are in the same position because they're now realizing that they are mighty mighty women and that they have a reason and a call in this world in life. So I just thank you for being a voice to this.
(25:30): Yeah, this is awesome. All I want to have you back, they're going to want to have you back. This is at, we will have her back eyes. This is absolutely amazing. Why don't you share again where, I mean specifically where they can find you and Matt and they can get connected with, with you and your
(25:48): Absolutely. Well, so my name is Kimberly and is my husband, Matthew and I are the directors of the roar house ministries and healing room. We have Instagram and Facebook and we are also launching our website. I don't have that link just yet, but what I will tell you is if you look for us on Facebook, under roar, R O H R house ministries, you will find us there. We do online booking and healing room appointments through our website, and we also do travel ministry as well. If you want to personally email me though, you're welcome to do that. And we can always set a time to talk and I can give my emails that, okay, Joe, you had to go for it. This is great. Well as roar house ministries@gmail.com and I welcome anyone who has more questions to feel free to email us, and we would be happy to connect on there. And that's the first place I would say, go to, and then we'll be launching our website soon.
(26:38): This is awesome. I cannot thank you enough. I love how you said being a fierce woman, because I always invite them in, you know, to the fit fierce as well. And I tell you, if you guys have zero energy to focus on yourself and need extra support and accountability from women who know what it's like to juggle a crazy busy life, head on over to beef and fierce.com and become unstoppable with us, or if you want to join a sisterhood dedicated to growing your faith, join our Jaspreet Facebook group heads up on the next episode, we're going to talk about what we really should be striving for. So come on back for that. Thanks so much for joining us today. Please subscribe, share this episode, link on your social media. As we all know, someone that can benefit. And I would love it if you would give some feedback and a review as well. Thanks so much, Kim. I just love that you're here. Thank you so much for pouring out your heart. Talk with you next time. Be fit, be fierce, be unstoppable.
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