Welcome to the win at home first podcast. I'm your host, Corey Carlson. This podcast is where we talk about how successful business leaders win, not only at work, but also at home. On this podcast, we will go behind the scenes with great leaders to hear stories of how they win. Thank you for listening and on to today's episode.
Hello, this is Corey. Thanks everybody for listening to this podcast, I'm excited for you to hear from Juan Garcia today, we cover some great topics. We talk about identity and how he had his identity into football. And when he got injured, how that affected his life, we talked about the importance of hot conversations and it's a good topic to help us all get better in growing in depth with relationships, we discussed the difference between the brain and the mind and how important positive thoughts and mindset can be for long term health.
(00:57): We discussed the importance of getting ready the night before for your day. It's actually how you win the day is starting the night before we cover a lot of things from psychology at coaching. It's a good one. Hope you enjoy as much as I did onto today's episode. Thanks. Hello, this is Corey Carlston. You're listening to the winter home first podcast. I'm excited about today to have Juan Garcia on the podcast, our paths cross via LinkedIn. He has done counseling. He does coaching. He just has a very neat story, written a book about men's struggles, and also not only brings his faith, but also a science to it, of psychology and understanding mindset. So just a wealth of knowledge, excited to have you on the show today, Juan. So thank you very much for being here, Corey.
(01:44): It's my honor and privilege. Thank you so much for allowing me to be in your space. And I look forward to an engaging conversation.
(01:53): Awesome. Well, to get started in whether it's your personal life or even your professional life you're working with so many different leaders as well. What do you see to be that leadership trait that is needed to win both at work? And
(02:09): I would say accountability making sure that there's integrity in what we do. I believe a lot of times leaders, especially leaders that have very strong leadership skills that get patted in the bag often elevate themselves to a place where they may feel as if they're above being held accountable and integrity becomes hijacked, right? And so it's almost like there are no rules or maybe the rules can be bent a little bit and obviously trouble and danger is ahead because we can never believe or assume that we're above any type of accountability. We must be held to the highest accountability because we have people that are following us and we have to make sure that we're leading them in the right path and holding ourselves accountable as we hold them accountable as well.
(03:03): Yeah, that's really good. And I see it. I just see a lot of people that are driven for success. It's high competency drive. And if we're not careful that character can erode pressures from shareholders or the pressures from just your surroundings to maybe, Oh, well, we'll let this slide this time. That's okay. Before you know, it they're so far off of their true North that they've allowed it to just completely erode. So from an accountability standpoint, just for that listener out there, how do you either hold yourself accountable, but encourage others to hold himself accountable? Cause sometimes that's part of the problem is no one knows where to go for accountability.
(03:44): I think you have to have a circle of at least two to three individuals that can ask you any question at any moment in your life, whether it's your personal life, your a business, a career life, someone that is sort of, if we referenced the Bible is like a Nathan to a David where it can come and really ask you those tough questions. It's not a matter of not hiding things. It's just a matter of a healthy relationship where we can just have an outlet, a positive and a healthy outlet where there is no condemnation. There's no judgment, but there is accountability. There's an integrity standard things that we're held to a high standard too, so that it makes us better in what we do and how we serve people.
(04:29): Yeah. The, the, the prize at the end of that is, is worth it, right? I mean, you have good relationships, you've got accountability, but it's the effort to get there that gets a lot of people tripped up because it takes energy and effort and risk to be intentional. And to say, I'm showing up with this friend and I'm going to be present. I'm going to ask hard questions. If I see something go drift, because it's so easy just to talk sports, whether COVID, you know, whatever it is, it's easy to hang out at the surface. But to actually say, I'm going a little deeper, I'm going to ask some questions on life, on purpose, on marriage, on kids, on quiet time, whatever it may be. And that's such a hard part. How have you encouraged, you know, whether it's been your own friends or your kids to say, Hey, here's how you step in to those friend groups with depth.
(05:22): So I I've had the challenge and the, and the blessing to do it with professional athletes for many years. And I think one of the things that has helped me is finding common ground. So obviously I played sports in high school. And so I have an understanding of the culture, but, you know, studying human behavior, I realized that people just want to know that you're, that you're serious and that you're being real about your approach. That there's no self game, that there's no kind of trick that you necessarily want something and return from these individuals. And so it's being real about your authentic relationship with the people that you want to help and serve. So that's one eye to eye. I think one of the things that I adopted at one point doing this is having individuals understand that you're going to have hot conversations with them and hot is the acronym.
(06:17): I love acronym people that, yeah, I love them. They just stick, you know? And so a hot conversation or topic that we will discuss is honest, open, transparent. The most important thing is not, you know, having a judgmental approach and just saying, man, how can I serve you? You know, how can I help you? How can I be a bridge to helping you get to the other side of success or, or overcoming that specific challenge? Because I care about our relationship and I find that a hundred percent of the time people are open to receiving any type of support, help advice. However you want to deliver that because it's, they just know that they're going to be better for it.
(07:00): Yeah, that's good. Well, hopefully a lot of people out there are going to have some hot conversations. I know I'm going to be one of them thinking of that, for sure. I love that acronym. You mentioned common ground. You know, I've got some common ground, it looks a little different, but the common ground is identity taking our identity to different places, whether it's corporate America, the success I was having, I love to hear a little bit more about your story of that identity of where it was full ride football scholarship thought is going to be the NFL. And that was who you were and when that was taken away, how a downward spiral and how you rebounded, because I think it's a message we all need to hear, especially right now was, you know, people's jobs may be changing or it's the dream is not shaping, shaping up to the way they thought it was. So help us understand Juan kind of your story and how identity comes into play.
(07:53): Yeah. Identity is a huge component of all of our makeup. And for me, it was a big focus for my whole transition and in life. So as a young boy, I grew up, you know, serving the Lord with my, my mom would take the three of us to church on the middle child of three. And my dad, you know, growing up for me, my dad was always an alcoholic. He till this day, as a matter of fact has never served. The Lord has never been a person to profess any type of belief. So he's has struggled all his life with PTSD from the Vietnam war and just not being able to understand the why's of life, the hard questions because of his own, you know, upbringing. So my ticket out I fell of, of dysfunction was football, even though I was small statute growing up my heart, I just, I just wanted to stick out and I was soaking. It still am competitive. I have to remind myself when my son wants to play, you know basketball was pickup basketball and here I'm like, yeah, this is cool.
(09:05): Your knee is saying different things. No. Yes.
(09:10): And, and so is my wife, by the way. Yeah, that's right, because you're so competitive. And part of my competitiveness was, you know, I need to prove myself. I need to prove that I am somebody. I need to prove that even though I haven't received the affirmation from my father, which I believe every male seeks whether directly or indirectly, I'm going to prove that I'm somebody and then I'm worth it and that I have value. And so I also took out my anger and my sense of rejection from my dad out on the football field. So I was a defensive back and I would tell anybody that was either a receiver. We call them split ends back then in high school, whether it wasn't tied in a slot bag, whoever was going to potentially catch the ball and run my way. I would let them know you're going to feel the power, right.
(10:02): And so big trash talker, but, you know, I was angry and I wanted to perform and stand out in that sense. And so I did well, I was pretty fast. I ran a four, six on a 40 yard dash for those that follow, you know, football. And so I had good hands and I had good read. So even then, Corey, just to highlight, even then I had what we would deem discernment or vision, I would know, kind of know, and anticipate what kind of play was going to be. And so that was a strength of mine and I would call it on the defense and adjust right away. And so a lot of Scouts saw that and you know, I had Scouts at home and asking my mom and, you know, interviewing my mom about where we would think to go. And so I had no idea about recruiting.
(10:48): I had no idea about any of that. We grew up poor. I didn't even watch college football. I mean, to that degree, I worked and I was more of a nerd and still am. So I was academically, you know, always in my books. And so I also could have gotten an academic scholarship, but what happened to Corey was that I did get an offer and I did go, and my first year of training camp, I tore my ACL trying to go after a tackle man with my own team. So I never even played a game. And that crushed me, that just sent me downhill. I was a minor, I graduated at 17. And so my mom had to release any potential treatment and things of that nature. And so my mom being a spiritual mom said, no, I don't want anybody touching you where you're gonna pray.
(11:39): We're gonna, you know, ask God to heal you. And you know, I felt defenseless. I felt like I had no, no power and no choice. So long story short, I ended up not being able to play anymore. And so had to come back home clinically depressed. I didn't know it at the time, but looking back in the way that I do now, I was definitely clinically depressed and I never sought out help. And so I was angry at God, angry at the world, my parents, everyone. And thank God that I had the scenes of fate and biblical teachings from when I was growing up, that I started seeking out a better understanding of, you know, how does this apply to my life? Because I realized that my identity was connected to football, my worth, my value, all the things that I really worked for, had everything to do with performance and people liking me and people approving me in this football games.
(12:42): And so God began to send me, mentors began to send me men that would love on me. That would encourage me. That would help me understand that I had a skillset that I had giftings that I had things to offer the world. I would talk a lot as you can tell, I talk a lot. And so they would encourage me to, why don't you become a public speaker? And I always had a heart for people. Well, maybe you're calling this to pastor. And so all of these things began to surface. As I surrounded myself with people that were successful, that were already, you know, college graduates having great homes, great marriages, great parents. And that's what I saw. And so, because I chose to surround myself with that, it totally changed my life. And I was able to seek my calling and ask the Lord, Lord, just use me as you can. I want to share with you on a sort of people. And that totally turned my life around, but it took surrounding myself with people that I was willing to listen to sit with, to speak into my life, followed me accountable as well, and not allow me to sink into this performance based lifestyle where I needed to seek approval from other people to find my worth and value.
(13:57): Well, yeah. Thanks for sharing all that. It's interesting. Now you and I both raised in a Christian home, so we have that strong foundation. Yeah. But yet at some point, whether it's the pressures of, you know, the world or even just our own upbringing, what we both had some different upbringings, but there was something that's that I long for approval of others. I want performance. And that's how I'm going to make my way. And so identity becomes such a piece of that. So I know so many people can relate to that piece for you. What was the, like the tipping point when you're at that moment of angry with God frustrated, what the heck is going on in my life? I thought my life was going to be different. How did you decide to pursue these friends, but what would be your recommendation for that individual?
(14:43): The, you know, starting to hand over their life to God, you know, a little bit of what I've shared with you before is just this idea of, I felt one time in my life, God said, you have to hand over your story for a greater story. And I think that's a part where you were at like, all right, here you go, God, this is my story was supposed to be this NFL player and it didn't work out. So what's your, you know, what do you have for me? He got I'm ready. Put me in coach.
(15:08): Yeah. Yeah. I think definitely I've always been curious about human behavior, which is why I studied psychology and and am a counselor, but it also drives you to understand mindset and mental toughness and what it takes to have a mentality or a mindset to be an overcomer. And I think one of those stories that stood out for me that, you know, you hear over and over again is the story of the prodigal son that Jesus shares as the parable in the Bible, where he says, you know, a father had two sons and so forth. And there's a moment when the son that does leave the home, the youngest child, it says that he kind of came to. And when you hear that, there's nothing specific that kind of leads him. Or there's, there's no specific manifestation or light that shines, or, you know, one of the pigs speaks to him or anything like that.
(16:08): It's almost like the inward connection that we have, which is our spirits pick God. It kind of turns on the light inside out. And it says when he came to, it's almost like, and I think that's what happened with me. I was reminded of that story. And I came to, and I said, wait a minute. I cannot allow my emotional state to control my life. I can not allow my, you know, failure, if you will, to deem my life as over, it's not worth living. It's not worth pursuing. It's not worth taking the steps necessary to seek success and fulfillment. And when that light bulb click, I think it was that moment to say, I think I can do something with my life. I think I can offer something. And obviously the encouragement that I'm receiving from all sides of specific individuals that just kind of chose to love on me.
(17:09): I don't know if it's my temperament, you know, I'm very outgoing, extroverted, and that kind of draws people. And maybe they saw that in me, which I didn't see myself or, and God used that to kind of love on me. You know, it's a way I believe that sometimes God wants us to be Jesus with skin on, for people. And sometimes with the only Jesus that people see or feel, and that affection and that love that we receive from people. It's almost like we're receiving it from God himself. And I think that's what those individuals did to me. And that with that light bulb turning on as well at the same time, it was like, I'm ready. Okay, got him. Wouldn't be, want me to do. And for the next few years I went on mission trips. I was able to serve, you know, in South and central America.
(17:58): And it just totally transformed my life because I, all of a sudden had a deep compassion for people from all over and obviously that morphed into different opportunities. And so here we are in this podcast trying to encourage people that, Hey, wherever you are, you're, you're not stuck there. You know, there's an opportunity somewhere that you are going to be able to see once you realize this is not the end of it. And I think it's that mentality to say, this can't be the end of it. There has to be more, there has to be an opportunity in such a dire and you know, negative situation because there always is. It has to do with our mindset and our perspective and things that we encounter.
(18:44): Yup, man, that's cool. I love your story of the prodigal son and just highlighting that come too. And sometimes that happens as, as we know, and, but sometimes it takes God sends in some additional messengers. And that was the next part for you. Where here comes some buddies to reinforce, to encourage, to help you move along. I know for myself, I felt in quiet time before I wrote my book. When at home first I felt God saying, you need to write your book. You need to share your story with other people. And I was so dismissive. I was not obedient. I mean, I just like, no, I'm not know civil engineer by degree, I'm a sales guy. I'm not a writer. And so I would push away then all of a sudden within about a series of probably two weeks, almost every single client had said, you should write a book. So I was like, alright, now I've got to listen. And that's so important about surrounding ourselves with people that are encouraging us. But we also take that encouragement back to God.
(19:41): Hello, this is Corey Carlson. Thank you very much for listening to this podcast. I greatly appreciate it. If things that we're saying or you're hearing what the guests are talking about, and you want to see how it can apply your life, and you want to dive deeper into the content. And I invite you to visit my website at Corey M Carlson, to learn more about my coaching program, what I'm doing for clients like you and how it can help you start winning boat at home and at work and living in life to the full. So thank you very much for listening and back to today's episode. Thank you. You mentioned mindset and I have just, you're further much further along on mindset than I am and what you've studied. But as of late, I have just been learning a lot more about mindset and studying it and just loved it. So, as you said, you talked about the brain and that piece, how is the mindset piece? What are you sharing with clients that is helpful to them woven in with that piece?
(20:48): It's interesting because the brain, the brain and the mind are separate, but it's separable. Meaning the brain physically forms itself dependent upon what the mind feeds it spiritually, because the mind, obviously our thoughts are not physical. We can't grab them and put them in our pockets. I wish we could. There's a lot of thoughts that you just want to kind of grab and throw it away. Yeah. That head trash, get that out of there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like click delete. It doesn't exist because they exist in the spirit realm. Right. Our thoughts come in, come out. And so those thoughts when we decided to keep them as a memory, it goes into our brain as physical storage. And it creates physical real estate in our brain, which are called neural pathways. And these neural pathways, the, the idea is for the brain to not have to continually retrace and redo what it has to do, because it does it so many milliseconds a day, it's a machine, right. It looks very efficient. Exactly, exactly. And so for it, and that's a continue to wear itself out. It familiarizes itself with our thought process. And so it creates these pathways and they're embedded in our brain physically. And when we do that in a positive way, when we think positively, it creates those pathways that are beautiful, they're clean, and you can actually see them in a scan. You see the pathway. And then at the end of it, wherever memories are formed, it's almost like a tree that branches out with leaves.
(22:31): And those Dan's REITs are powerful, but you want them to be full of life. You want them to look exactly like a tree when it's negative thoughts, those pathways are created. And those damn drugs don't look like. It looks almost like when fall comes and all the leaves fall out. And so that's dangerous because that can create things like dementia. Alzheimer's all of these diseases that we deal with today. And some of our parents and older, you know, uncles and aunts, grandparents, they're dealing with these diseases because 20 to 30 years is what it takes for these diseases to actually become developed in our brains. And so they're getting diagnosed today, but it started 20, 30 years ago because of the thought process. And so what I tell people is you want to be intentional with what you're allowing your thought patterns to be. And obviously for those that are believers, I share the scripture that says that we have to take every captive.
(23:36): Yeah. Because thoughts become strongholds. And a lot of what I see and I personally had to deal with, even after my coming to understanding my calling in the Lord, I still had to deal with false beliefs. And I actually am finishing a book on that because I believe that a lot of our identity is tied to false beliefs is tied to these ideologies, right? That we have allowed to become true that have no basis that have no truth whatsoever, but because of maybe insecurities or maybe a negative talk that we've allowed either to hear or to tell ourselves they become reality. And to us and we function and perform based on those false beliefs. And in reality, we're like, wait a minute. And so one of the things that the brain does, Corey, is that the brain doesn't know how to act when we're trying to lie to ourselves, our brain is like, wait a minute.
(24:40): What are you doing? Because what you're telling yourself is not even true. And so, because it's a machine, like you said, it starts to kind of like, like struggle within itself. And this wants to create, but the pathways for it doesn't make sense because it's like, you're saying this, but you don't really believe it. So it's not true. So what do I do with this information? And what happens with that is that it produces stress. And so the brain has to secrete from the amygdala, adrenaline, all of these different chemicals that when they're in our bodies too long, it starts to stress us out. And then we become either nervous all the time, stressful, irritable. We don't want to talk to people. All of these things become a behavior. When in reality, it all started with a thought process and it's connected to our identity. I help people navigate so that they can discover who they are and why they are so that they can live their best life as God has called him and intended to.
(25:44): Oh, that's good. It's, it's crazy to me that you can actually see that those pathways with the positive ones actually look good. And that the negative pathways actually look just like dead leaves as you described. It's just interesting that God even has that look, visual is visibly different. That's the wild not having to give all the way your program and how you help your clients. So what about you, Juan? What do you do to keep your mindset elevated, to continue to drive for? Cause you have down days, you're CEO, owner of your business. And sometimes it's, it's a hard day. You lose a client. Other days you get clients, sometimes you just have the stress of a, of a heavy client load and some of the conversations you're having and how do you improve your mindset?
(26:34): I should say number one is my prayer life. I believe that my communication with God, my father, my creator the production manager, if you will, is important, you know, and speaking to God on a daily basis and listening to what he has to say for me is number one. And then obviously I love to read, I live with discipline life, Corey. I always say that I don't wait for tomorrow to plan for the day I plan for tomorrow, tonight. So I'll lay out my clothes for tonight. For tomorrow. Tonight, I'll have, you know, shedding preps, whatever it is that my day entails. I prepped the night before. So I'm intentional about what I do. Discipline wise. I also am very intentional about how I perceive my relationship with my wife. My wife is my best friend. My wife is my confidant.
(27:29): My wife is my lover. You know, all of those things that God intended for her to be to me. And so I'm intentional about taking out time to date her, to you know just engage in time with her, have fun with her. You know, we've been married 24 years and there's never a dull moment. We continue to, you know, grow together and discover God together and discover each other together. And I think that's a journey that just fills me. That gives me purpose and hope. And so I really, and this may sound a little different than what people may expect, but I really shied away from production based or performance based approaches in, in what I do. Meaning obviously I'm working hard and what I want to do and what do I accomplish? And you know, what do you, so you're going to read, but I don't concern myself as much with the actual production and push my performance because I don't live my life performance based mainly spiritually, you know, Christ did it for me.
(28:35): So I don't have to do what the typical religious person feels that they have to pray more and this and that, Oh, Christ did it for me. He actually gave his life and ransom from mine. Right. But practically speaking, I don't find my worth and the performance that I put out, my value, my identity and my worth is not in how many subscribers I have or how many likes I get or how many people view or listen to my podcast or buy my book. That's great. If I can get up there and do what you've done, Corey, you know, Amazon bestseller. And that's awesome. But if I don't achieve that, I don't look at it as failure. I look at it as it's part of the process where I am. It's not my value, it's not my worth. And I think that's where a lot of people in leadership struggle, because if they don't meet those sales, obviously they don't hit the performance that is required of them, but also affects their identity.
(29:42): It says, I'm not good enough. It says, I'm not doing, you know, what it takes. And maybe there are things that you may have to add to your daily routine, know, help the performance, but never take it to where it's your identity because it's not, it's a learning process. It's a life that we have to, you know, just go about and learn and get better at what we're asked to do, but it's not your worth. It's not your value. And so I shy away from that mindset because that also creates negative pathways. And when I scan my brain, I don't want to see those, those, those branches, all Stickley. And
(30:21): I love everything you talked about on the performance base. And that for me has been something in the last few years, I'm just getting better at, because I heard this phrase actually it's about seven years ago when I heard this phrase where instead of working for approval work from a place of approval, like no more beloved son, a beloved daughter, like I can work from this place of approval. I don't need to go for approval. And that has always been my kryptonite. You know, it was kind of, you mentioned yours is that approval and performance. I'm right there with you, the approval of others. So it's another shift that's helped me is that idea that lead indicators versus lag indicators, right? Business terms that everyone understands. Those lag that I was so focused on for awhile was, was revenue or the end result. And at that point it's actually too late.
(31:06): I mean, we all get it. It's too late. You either had enough money coming in or you didn't, but I've gotten so much better about going further upstream and focused on those lead indicators. Am I going to the gym, you know, every morning, am I reading scripture? Am I doing my morning, basically, routine of prayer and spending some time in the word and like doing podcasts like this, that won't air for a couple months, but just continue to just putting the reps like of having incredible conversations with individuals, making sure I'm writing and blogging. So I'm right with you for a long time. I was so focused on the end results. Now there are days that I can get just, you know, discouraged because of those social media likes or something like that. But man, I've got to go right back to help him mindset, focus on the lead indicators and really kind of recalibrating and reminding myself where my identity truly is. So yeah, very helpful. Yeah.
(32:03): And I think, I think you having podcasts like this, that listeners can, can listen to, will encourage them to say, okay, I have to reset. I have to, I'm going down a bad path and negative path I'm feeling discouraged, but then all of a sudden your podcast comes up or your book is on the shelf and they take a peek at it. And like, yeah, I got to get back to winning at home. I gotta, I gotta make sure that and those are the, that's why these things are not a waste. That's why these things are not, you know, even if you don't get the listenership that you may think you should be yet, there's always someone that's going to look at it and going to be a reference point. And it's also going to be a turning point. And that's the way I look at it.
(32:42): And I, I just do what I've been called to do. And I just know and trust because that's another thing, Corey, I think a lot of times we don't like to admit that we struggle with trusting God. And in the process we struggle with with saying, okay, God, I I've done all that. I can, you know, I need your help in this, but because we don't see the help from God, the way we think it should be, then all of a sudden it's like, I gotta do more. I gotta do more. I gotta do more. And God is saying, are you going to allow me to do my cart? You know, which is perfect. I think we have to be able to admit that and say, okay, God, I'm not trusting you in this. Help me trust you. And then just trust him and allow him to glorify himself in us and what we do in the work we do, because he knows best he's sovereign. And we have to believe that
(33:31): No, for the listeners out there. I mean, I, and you'll appreciate this one is I had a conversation actually yesterday with a client of mine who is responsible for basically about $700 million business. And so it's, it's, it's a real deal and it just hit him yesterday. We were actually talking about some of the same topics we are today, as far as lead and lag, things like that. But what hit him and maybe this will help some listeners out there is this idea that whoever he comes across, whether he's talking to the financial department of the company, whether he's talking to HR, whether he's talking to a customer everywhere, he goes, he leaves an imprint. And is that imprint that he leaves like, so this individual, he hasn't written a book, so he didn't have that bookshelf reminder, but he is leaving an imprint that as he goes, and that's true of all of us, you know, from a Christian standpoint, you say, you know, we're planting a seed and, and we're doing those types of things that the conversation with this client is not faith-based, it is more of a secular setting, but he got it thinking, I leave an imprint wherever I go.
(34:31): And I think that's so important is everything we're doing. We got to show up everyday pound the nail, just keep pounding the nail. But knowing where you're leaving those imprints on people we touch. And so those are our lead indicators and we shall see how it trickles out, but we can't be judging ourselves on that lag. That's good. How can listeners get ahold of you on what's the best way?
(34:52): So we have a website, Juan Garcia, enterprises.com. And there, we have links to our YouTube channel where our podcast is called mind yours. And basically the concept is we focused on mental health and peak performance. And my daughter who's 16. She does the outro of the podcast. She says, you know, everybody has a mind so mind yours, and it's basically just take care of yourself. You know, we, we know the proverbial, you know the masks that fallout in the airplane, you know make sure you put your clothes on before you help someone else and working in the clinical space and the hospitals, doctors, we, you know, we work together and we always say, before you check someone else's pulse, make sure you check yours. Meaning are you taking care of yourself? And so that's the whole premise of our podcast, mind yours. We're in every platform, iTunes, Google, Spotify, you can follow us there. And you'll, you'll see links to our our book to the menstrual cycle where I do a play on words with how the female goes through the menstrual cycle and we have our own cycle and just to recognize it and not allow it to take over us. And so there I am.
(36:13): That's great resources and I'll put those in the show notes as well, Juan, thank you so much for your time and sharing your wisdom with the list.
(36:21): Oh my pleasure. Thank you.
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