Even after racking up 1,241,321 downloads and having 1,127 episodes in iTunes none of the shows at The Podcast Factory have made a top 20 list (that I know of.)
It's OK, because I'm not the type to need a pat on the back to know my work matters.
When I look at my bank account at the end of each month I'm feeling good if there's more dough than the month before.
But that's not to say being mentioned in those lists isn't a good thing.
In fact, my friend Jaime Masters just made the "Top 24 podcasts of 2017" according to Entrepreneur dot com.
She's deserves it, because she's one smart cookie.
In fact, I interviewed her a while back about how she got started podcasting and where the actual dough comes from.
Turns out, the podcast itself isn't the real money make for her.
Like most podcasters she jumped in without a plan to make dough with her show.
A few months in she realized she had to regroup if she was going to survive.
That's when she turned to a 140 year old technology to start raking in the big buckeroos.
Not only that, but nowadays that's where she tells all her clients to start if they want bring in some serious scratch.
Anyways, her and I talk a great deal about this in our interview.
And the good news is, I'm including my interview with Jaime as a special bonus inside next month's Podcast Mogul Newsletter.
If you want to get your ears on it, subscribe now at http://PodcastMogul.com
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