Welcome to the win at home first podcast. I'm your host, Cory Carlson. This podcast is where we talk about how successful business leaders win, not only at work, but also at home. On this podcast, we will go behind the scenes with great leaders to hear stories of how they win. Thank you for listening and on to today's episode.
(00:26): Hello, this is Corey today's episode. Wilcox is a great one and packed with humility and honesty. He shares the ups and the downs of his life. The downs include addictions and at one point money was so tight. They had to sell his wife's wedding ring all the way to the ups, where he is now CEO of a solar company that is thriving. And the conversation is just packed with nuggets. He talks about humility. He talks about expectations. This idea of listening with your eyes. It is a very good episode. I hope you enjoy as much as I did the conversation on to today's episode.
(01:09): Hello, this is Corey. You're listening to win at home first podcast today, I'm joined by Wilcox who is CEO of solar energy. And a few months ago, our paths cross on LinkedIn, which led to a phone conversation. And on the phone, I was just, I was just impressed with his story, which we'll get into during this podcast, but just, it's a story of challenges and overcoming them to eventually get to this point where he is CEO of solar energy. They have, you know, just under 50 employees of mixture of W2 and independent contractors and, you know, solar energy wasn't even part of his past or what he'd ever thought he'd do. And so there's other stories like that throughout Will's life. He is married. He has two kids, so he is a winning at work and went home and will thank you very much for coming on the podcast today. Thanks, Corey. Appreciate it. Good to be here.
(02:05): We'll what is that number one trait that leaders need to have in order to win at both home and work? I think humility more than anything in my opinion is, is, you know, having a sense of yourself, you know, the strengths and your weaknesses and you know, where you can Excel and where you need help at, How does it humility show up in your house?
(02:30): Don't have all the, you know, parenting something that you read, all the books that you can about being a good parent or watch YouTube videos or how to overcome, but you don't have all the answers by any means. And so, you know, being able to get on your kid's level, that, you know, be on your wife's level and, and come down from, you know, your position of authority as a man in the household, and really being able to understand their, their needs. And, you know, we make mistakes, being able to communicate, you know, those mistakes, you know, being open and, and honest with your family about when you make a mistake and, you know, we're where you may have fallen short and where you can be better and have that real human side, that they can see that dad's not perfect. And you know, my wife certainly knows that I'm not perfect, but let them know that a, you know, make mistakes and trying to get, get better and always striving to be the, the man that they hope you can be.
(03:33): I like how you made the comment about kind of stepping down from your ego, from where you're at, because you're CEO every day at the office, and you're been at this company for four years and it's, it's been a growth, continued to grow. And so CEO, you make the decisions running, but if you come home and you operate that way, things don't go very well. Your wife doesn't appreciate your kids. Won't appreciate it. So how do you dial back? But yet still be the leader of the home.
(04:04): It took some, some time to get used to it. It really came down to expectations. I mean, you walk into your home after a long day and you're expecting your, you know, dinner to be made the house to be perfect. Everybody to be happy. The kids are nice. When you have those expectations, you're setting yourself up, you send the entire household up for failure. That that's not reality. And so if you come in and your first thought is okay, Hey, Hey, how can I serve the people in my household? When I get home, where can I help my wife? Where can I be of assistance or, you know, show love to my kids. It goes a long way. So nothing is perfect and understanding, you know, it's having that heart of a servant coming in, looking to help as opposed to being catered, to makes a big difference in your mindset, your family's mindset and how the rest of the evening goes.
(04:58): Is there anything you do to rally or to get your mind in the right spot? Because you're coming home, you're tired then making decisions all day long. How do you walk in with that additional energy to figure out, Hey, how do I serve? How do I love?
(05:13): It's difficult to do. There's there's no doubt about it. It's really finding that time to turn off work. You can't have one foot at work and one foot at home, as hard as that possibly is. And it's something that I struggle with. There's no doubt about it, but when you go home and say hi to the family, give you wife kiss. And you're trying to communicate with them. Also, still checking your emails. You know, you're physically at home, but your mind is not there. And so you may be frustrated. You you're trying to take care of an issue at work that that should have been taken care of before you ever walked in the door and you can take frustrations out on your kids, just cause they're happy to see you're physically present, but mentally you're not there. You're, you're S you're somewhere else.
(06:06): And if there's not that clean, okay, Hey, it's home time. It's that time work is done and not, and setting those boundaries for yourself. You're going to run into some, some struggles. Certainly, you know, w one of the things that my youngest, the one that's least light looks most likely, but is mud acts much more like Jenny, thank goodness. He, I I'd be sitting there on my phone and he's five years old and he's trying to talk to me, have a conversation. Hey, dad listened to me. I said, I am buddy, while I'm I'm emailing away. And he grabs my phone and says, listen with your eyes. And when that happens, it really hits you. And so for me, it's finding you, you know, you almost, you have to be committed to, Hey, when I get in this house, it's their time and you have to check just like, Hey, we expect our employees. And we checked our, expect ourselves to check your baggage at the door. Hey, you gotta focus. You gotta perform, understand there's things going on. You gotta check out the door, you gotta beat your job and you gotta perform. Same thing goes for when you're at home, you have got to check whatever baggage that you have from work at the door. So you can be the best for them. And it's much easier said than it is done.
(07:28): Ah, I love that phrase, listen with your eyes and is so good. Such wisdom in young kids. Isn't there. Yeah, it hurt. I mean, it sounds cute now, but when he says, oh man, you're exactly, you're exactly. That's in the cradle starts playing in the background. I mean, I'm just sitting there. My life's flashing before my eyes. Oh my gosh. I'm missing out on everything. And you know, it, it was, it was, it was, it was golden right on.
(07:54): Is there a hack you have so that you do a good job of checking your baggage at the door when you come in? I mean, do you do a phone in the cupboard? Do you not make phone calls on the way home? I mean, is there just a hack that you found? Not that you have it perfected, but there's just something that's working for you that you wish you would have started earlier?
(08:12): Well, yeah, there's a train that prevents me from getting home a lot today. And so I would be very angry that this train was delaying my ever so important schedule. And so I made a point that, Hey, when that train comes across, I'm going to be grateful for it. Now I'm going to spend that time in praise and worship. And so the days that the trains come believe it or not is the days that I enter the home in a much better mindset. So as far as you know, I leave hoping there's a train now, but you know, it's it's something that, that I'm working on. So I need to be better at, there's no doubt about that to make sure that, you know, I have that pause and I have that have that reset,
(08:55): Train examples. Awesome. We need an example. I mean, in your life where you can, when the train doesn't come, you can still get fired up. And for me, who doesn't have a train on my commute, but that trigger that it's like, it's game face, I'm running onto the field. Now it's a good one. We'll we'll when we had our very first conversation, I loved it. I was kinda on the edge of my seat. As you are very vulnerable in sharing battles that you've had through your life, which involved addiction, it involved, even your company, having some financial challenges in time and to eventually becoming an overcomer and being strong in your faith, your family and your employees. And it's one of those stories that listeners need to hear because we're all facing different challenges. And there's some days we face these challenges. We don't think we can overcome it. And by hearing a story like yours, it's one that gives hope. It gave me hope. I was excited to continue on our conversation. And so I'd love to just have you share some pieces of your story that you think would be helpful to the listener?
(10:04): Yeah, absolutely. You know, for me, it really comes into two parts before God. And after God, big passion of mine is being there to help and mentor, you know, young men in youth that are dealing with, with different things, specifically opiate addictions and for me, and they ask, Hey, how did, how did you overcome this? And what kind of led you on the path? And for me, it's always about it came down to two things, a great girl that believed in me and me finally believing in a greater God All-American kid in high school, you know, captain quarterback, captain of the football team, all the stuff that goes with that. And just a kid that did everything to the extreme and what drove me in athletics is the same thing that drove me to do to disruptive behaviors off the field, telling a story, having good time, staying up late, having an image, all those things are what was important and how many people knew who I was, how many people buy me drinks, how many drinks I had, but it was such a superficial image that I had that started off as a good time and ended up into a downward spiral of addiction that almost took my life many, many, many times.
(11:23): And, you know, it was always that thrilled to chase and, and everything was to the extreme and tell you, you ended up spending a decade trying to kill yourself every day. And even though that I never intentionally tried to commit suicide, my behaviors would have told you something completely different, whether it's having your stomach pumped, because you take too many Vicodin, whether it's you overdose off heroin, it w it was bad. And I was on the complete path of destruction. And that was my, I ended up meeting Jenny 11 years ago. And, you know, she had, after three weeks, she had turned down a job that she had had coming up down to Florida to stay with me here in Missouri. And it was actually kind of funny. I'm the last person anybody ever thought that would get married? And I, I mean, I'm, I'm still surprised.
(12:15): I, I love being married to Jenny more than anything in this world. And it was after three days, I told her, Hey, I know you got the job in Florida. I don't think you're going to take it. I think you're going to stay here with me and she kind of brushed it off. Well, three weeks later, she turned down the job and she found out it was about a week, two weeks later till she found out how poor of a choice that, that was that's when the, all the facade wore off that's when she found out that she put her career on hold for a complete and total junky, somebody that was prone to violence, not against her in a physical sense, by any way, but I was not a good person under any circumstance and there's good people. And then on the far other end, there was me.
(13:07): And it was at that point in time where, you know, I started to make a change. I went to church with her one time and I kept looking around and all these people were happy, you know? And, and, and I didn't have a belief, a life that I lived and the things that I had seen that really have a God didn't fit into an all loving God. Wasn't a character in the story that, that I saw by any means at all. I was doing well at work and sales. I was doing very well, but completely I was a miserable person and I completely just self-sabotage. And it got to a point in time where she said, Hey, you clean, you get clean, or I'm gone. And for whatever reason, after many, many attempts before I did. And we ended up after having some, some time clean time under my belt, and we ended up getting engaged and got married and had our first son Liam, when, when we were in Pennsylvania, I still, God hadn't shown up yet in that till Liam was born.
(14:19): And so that was really when I started searching at that moment in time for God, all of a sudden it clicked. And it was, you know, seven years ago when I ended up giving my life to Christ. And I always say there's kind of two points of seven years ago. I, when I gave my life to Christ and it was five years ago that I started becoming obedience to God. And, you know, that's kind of the journey that shaped me get on the, or the journey that allow me to get on the path that I'm on right now in terms of my, my personal faith. Incredible story.
(14:56): We'll thank you for sharing it in high school. And then you, you talked about that decade of addiction. Was it a high school injury that got the addictions going and then in there, was it an identity rack? I mean, were you planning on, you know, your identity was tied to football, you're going to play college and then the injury took it and then you went south, or I guess help me understand or help us all understand kind of how the start.
(15:23): Yeah, I, I wish I was, I was that talent. I was good, but I made up for a lack of, of talent and speed with heart. So I wasn't going to play big time, college ball or anything like that, but it actually started Corey. And it's a great question. When I was in sixth grade, I was riding my bike and I ran into the back of a parked car and I broke my jaw and I had braces this time. And if I didn't have braces, I would have all my teeth would have been knocked out, but I had to have three reconstructive surgeries. And they actually had to implant a cadaver, a bone in my upper Joel to support the structure, but your three major surgeries in a period of, of 18 months. So after the second one, I was in a tremendous amount of pain.
(16:14): And by this time I'm in seventh grade, my mom went to bed, I'm in a lot of pain. And so I'll never forget it. I had taken two additional Vicodin and I'll never forget the way that it made me feel. And so I look at that. So I had to go through that surgery. Then it was another reconstructive surgery, a major surgery that was, was nine months after that. And then if a couple of smaller surgery. So I look at, at the really beginning of my addiction as occurring during that period. And that's what happens a lot of times. And so you've got somebody like me, that was a high achiever. I always completely immersed myself in whatever I'm doing. And so, you know, when it came to, to high school and the drinking, I did the exact same thing. I want to be the person that they can drink the most and stay up the most and stay up the longest.
(17:09): And so after high school, you know, it switched over to alcohol. I had attended university of Missouri. My last semester. I got a D incomplete and two F's. I got a 0.2 because I was drinking every single, every single day. And after I got kicked out out of Mizzou, it was, I came back. My parents have had a restaurant in town, a breakfast restaurant since January 23rd and 97. I was in charge of one of the stores and having to get up every morning at 4:30 AM. And, you know, it was hard to do that with a hangover. And that's when I ended up finding his again for four opiates. And you start with the one and you start getting more and more and more into the underbelly of wherever you're at, which is Springfield at the time. And you ended up hanging out around with different people, started getting different connections, introduced to Oxycontin, moved to Kansas city, get in with some very, very, just a rough crowd to put it kindly.
(18:14): Then you're introduced to heroin and it just snowballs. And for all intents and purposes, you, you hate yourself. You want to be different, but your mind, your brain is completely different than when it was before you started using. And so that's, that's how it happened. I mean, it, it just that, that, that combination of somebody that has an addictive personality anyway, with that event that occurred in sixth grade and, you know, Hey, it's a disease. The world health organizations define addiction as a chronic progressive disease for which there is no known cure. And so you've just got these different combinations of things that occur. And, you know, it's just the perfect storm. And you, you take somebody that is not race and doing things like that, turning them into a complete junk. So it just happens naturally over time.
(19:13): Thank you very much for listening to today's episode. I hope you joining it so far before we go back to the rest of this episode. I want to share with you my book when at home first, some of you have read it. So thank you very much for others of you. You have not. And I encourage, if you're looking for a resource to help you with these times of your work is now in your home and your home is now in your work. And what this looks like. This book is being helpful to many leaders like you whores magazine said it was one of seven books. Everyone on your team should read in the book is broken up into four different sections to help you versus about you. Understand who you are. The second is marriage in ideas and tips to help with your marriage. Third is parenting and the last is work. So these four different sections to help you recalibrate during this time and to help move forward. So if you are needing additional resource, I encourage you to check out my book went home. First. It is available on Amazon, as well as audible and so on to the rest of the episode. Thank you very much.
(20:20): So now to the current day, you're a personality that goes all in. You want to be the best and now you're clean. And how do you control that desire to be the best that control of ambition? And just go, go, go. How are you doing that now? Because I know a lot of listeners, we all can struggle with an addiction of work and addiction of, I want to be the best. And so what does that look like in your life will, because that's got to still be around.
(20:54): Yeah, it's there, but you know, you, you ended up getting enough time underneath, you have clarity and wisdom, and you're in business long enough. You're going to get burned in circumstances. You're going to make mistakes. And so really being able to look at, at the mistakes that you've made in your life, whether it be personal or business in trying to, you know, Hey, fire's great. It can certainly motivate your movie and you gotta be careful that it doesn't completely burn you up. You've got to have people there that are smarter than you, you know, some smart areas that you're not are strong in areas that you're weak. And I'm a very self-aware person. And in years of struggling allowed me to gain that wisdom and, and, and understand that I don't have it all figured out. So, and that's why I talk about humility. You have, you have to know when you are not right, and you have to be vulnerable and you have to be able to say, Hey, I don't have it all figured out. I don't have all the answers and, you know, allow empower others to step up in, in those circumstances in dodging the right path. Sometimes
(22:07): Do you have a routine that you have every day? I mean, scripture, prayer, what does that look like for you? I get up early. I love getting up early, get my devotional and work out, have coffee. And for me, when I do that, I'm, I'm in the right place. So it, it, it's the same thing every day. We're creatures of habit. And so get up, get up early 4 45 alarm goes off, you hit your knees, you pray, you read the scripture. And then you're in the gym and, you know, Hey, there'll be people listening to podcast. One question that I get all too often is I may not. I thought you were dead, sorry, or banks, you know, you don't really know what to say. So it'd be a lot of people on this podcast say, man, but, you know, Hey, it that's what our God does. He breathes life into dead people, dead marriages, dead situations. And you know, that routine is what, you know, it's not, it's not just doing the right things. It's brings joy. That structure is what brings joy into, into my life
(23:14): That has got to put an extra kind of pep in your step. When, when you hear, Hey, I thought that you were dead. I mean, yeah, it's embarrassing for a quick minute, but then it's like, I'm, I'm not dead. I'm, I'm running a company. I've got a team around me. I mean, what an incredible story. All right. We'll I apologize for bouncing around, but there's just a lot of parts of the story. I want to kind of keep hitting on at different moments. And I want to talk about the timeline. So how did you go from an addiction having a successful career that moment, but still an addiction and living in Kansas city, going with a rough crowd he had mentioned, but now today you're CEO of a company that has little less than 50 people that are working independent on the company. So how does that work?
(24:03): When I was in Kansas city and that's before I had met Jenny, I moved down here. I ended up having a Korean sales with a fortune 500 company and did really well with them, did well there. And it fueled my addiction that continued on. And it was, you know, I'd, I'd met Jenny at that time. That's when I started taking the steps to get clean and hadn't become a Christian yet, but we moved to Pennsylvania, had Liam there moved to Chicago, had Chandler there they're 14 months apart and came back still with the same organization, fortune 500 company that treated me really well. And I hadn't became a Christian quite yet. I was still really searching, but when I became a, it was at that moment, time that I gave my life to Christ and I, I look in one too much longer that I ended up, ended up quitting.
(24:59): It was at that time making great money. And that was all it mattered that in the title was the only thing that mattered and I had quit. And when I became a Christian, everything that had mattered previously, all that money, all those titles, all of that started slowly, slowly slipping away. And you end up not having to worry about money at all to, oh my goodness, how are we going to pay the bills? And so I was looking for what to do, and me and Jenny were actually down in Mexico on a trip. Then my parents took us on. We couldn't afford a trip at the time, everything that I had made with the company that I was at since gone away, I, you know, I had had started a business and ended up failing, you know, didn't do well at that and, and took a significant hit on our personal finances.
(25:55): So I got a call from somebody while we're sitting there out on the balcony, I almost didn't take the call, but I did. And they said, Hey, people follow you. They don't follow me. And I want to start this business and I want it to be a solar business. Would you be interested in starting that with me in bringing your, your team? And I immediately knew, I immediately knew that that's what I wanted to do. It, it was a, yes, I get back in five days, let's talk for what or less. I knew it. I knew it at that time. So next day we get, I get a call from my mother-in-law, who is in Houston, Texas with, with Jenny's grandma and, and Ginny's grandma, you know, passed away this past year. The single most godly is the closest I've ever been to Jesus on this earth is that woman.
(26:45): And so Jenny's mom gives me a call and said, Hey, well, I just thought I should let you know something granting w was in a room having prayer time. And she starts getting loud and opens up the door. It looks like she seen a ghost and said, we have to talk about will. And she goes, well, what's wrong? And she sits down and will she just looks, she looks you know, just borderline scared, but she's also excited. And she tears in her eyes and she goes, I think he's getting ready to fall into some prosperity in, you know, Jenny and I had been struggling for two years up to that point. And she goes, oh, that's great. And she goes, no, I think it's life changing prosperity. I had a vision of him standing in a field and the sun was shining down on him and money started popping up everywhere.
(27:37): And the sun kept getting brighter and brighter and brighter and brighter until all I could see was the sun. And I said, Nancy, I got a call yesterday about somebody asking me to go into solar and, you know, Nancy, my mother-in-law was just completely shocked. And as am I, and she goes, so that's a, that's a sign that you need. You know, Jenny and I, at that particular time were looking for anything to, to that we could hold onto in terms of hope. And you hear something like that. Both of us ended up being in tears in saying that that's it. And so ended up going in and starting that, that company and the organization, and ended up having success. And it was a year later that that dissolved and me and the group of the sales reps that I've had with me for many, many, many years, it stayed with me in the, in the new business that I had worked for me before they, they were in the startup with me that that didn't turn out well.
(28:44): They followed me to this, this new solar venture and got educated and learned, and we had success. And it was, it was after a year being in that organization that, that I had a meeting. And that's when Solera ended up being, being formed. And when I was talking to Jenny about, I mean, everything was such a, such a God thing that, that happened. And I'm talking to Jenny and I said, Hey, in order for this to be successful, I've got to have somebody like Ryan McDonald, who had lived four doors down from me who was a vice president of a, of a logistics company at that time. And I go, I've got to have somebody like him. And she goes, well, he ever leaves the business that he's with right now. I said, no, well, four days later, I'm at his house talking to him. And he goes, I'm thinking about leaving the company that I'm with right now.
(29:37): And I'm like, wait, what? He goes, I'm thinking about getting another job. And I, and I'm, I'm freaking out. And, and I can't hardly get the words out. And so it ends up being, I I'm just shocked. And so, you know, God has that plan and, you know, you just got to get out of the way and allow it to happen. And that's when he ended up coming on board and, you know, it was, it, it was all those things that brought Solera into place. Now that didn't mean we, we started off in, in just, we just start printing money. It didn't work that way. It was actually quite the opposite. Our struggle, the struggles that we went through when we started this company, or the reason that we're successful today, that's when we were able to really dial in on our procedures and our process and find two things.
(30:22): It was eight months in that, that I hadn't taken a paycheck in quite a long time. We're obviously still dealing with the financial fallout from the years of not making money or the savings have been depleted Collin, all that had gone away. And, you know, w we're selling everything. I mean, Jenny is just selling everything and it ends up, Hey, we've got the choice. Do we take money from this company? And in the existence that will be questionable, or do we sell her ring? And we sold her ring. And for her, it was the equivalent of somebody else selling an old TV. She doesn't care that that stuff didn't matter to her. It mattered to me. And it was, our boats were burnt. We started scouting. We didn't have a choice, but to be successful. And we ended up turning it over to God and he put all those things in place, in any allow the struggle to happen, we're able to learn.
(31:25): And it was really sitting there after she had had done that, that I sat back and I looked at her and I looked at my kids completely different. And in all of the nothing mattered, but them and I was so filled with joy. They talk about peace that passes understanding. I didn't know why, but I was content in that situation. And somebody that has an ego light like I do. And a lot of us, a lot of us do to, to have your wife go through that. W was it's crushes your ego when you fail. When you feel like you failed your family as a provider, you know, it's a tough situation to be in, but despite all of it, I was in a situation that I was, I was at peace with it, and I was at joy. And it was right about that time that the wheels started turning.
(32:14): And that's when we go from a group of people, you know, selling solar into a organization that is, is in its current state. That is right now. I always talk about the 127 men, women, and children that rely on this company to, to put food in their mouth every single day. And we've been able to go from that struggle. That struggle is what has built us into the organization that we are now. And, you know, it's the story that I always think about is caterpillar struggling to get out of its cocoon and a little boy comes and cuts them out. And the butterfly does, the wings never take form. They know that they have to struggle in the cocoon to develop enough blood flow. So the wings are strong enough to allow it to fly in that struggle as hard as it was to go through that struggle. Those, those Ginny Sellner rang those times of worry, set the foundation for the company that we are today. So I know there's a lot there and probably gave you more than, than, than you guys care to care to know. But you know, it's a amazing thing. It's a miracle that we're here and we're stronger today than we ever happened.
(33:35): I've heard parts of that story before will, and each time I hear it, it gives me goosebumps. I mean, it's just an, it's an incredible story of perseverance, as well as just God's restoration each of our lives, your guys' marriage and, and the company. What are you hearing from God right now, The, in the moment be in the present and make the most out of what you're doing right now.
(33:59): That's a good word. The stories that you've had getting knocked down, getting back up there, just gotta be this courage and boldness that you have going forward as you lead the company and lead the family.
(34:14): Yeah, it's certainly the, I mean, it's, I talk about Providence and having the hand of God over you to protect you and having God's favor in every situation and battle that, that you go into. And there is that, that confidence, you start getting that swagger about you in your situation, and you're able to go in your exact right. I mean, it creates momentum and it becomes very contagious. And when you know that God set the plan forwards, you just have to go through you, you know, you have to do the right things. You work hard and things are going to be taken care of. There's certainly confidence that you have and a comfort that you have going about your daily life. Yes.
(34:57): Is that Hebrews verse lived out where, you know, faith is the assurance of things that are hoped for the conviction of things. Not yet seen, you've seen so many moments of your own life where it's like, I don't know how I'm getting out of this. Like, but yet you, you have gotten through it. So it just gives you that faith for greater things to come.
(35:17): Yeah. My, my favorite scripture is you know, first Peter, five, six, humble yourself under the mighty hand of God and the right time, he will lift you up and honor. And the two things that really stick out to me, and that is first thing I talked about humility, you know, that, that confidence, I just talked about how to be, you know, not to walk in you're in your own confidence or accomplishments, and also at the right time, at the right time, he will lift you up in honor. And so we want everything to be on, on our, on our timeline. We want things when we want them, and that's just not, not realistic. So, you know, being humble, being patient and turning toward, towards him is, is, you know, what it allows us to keep going through the day.
(36:02): That's powerful. We'll thank you so much for today. Thank you for your vulnerability. What's the best way for listeners to get ahold of you, whether it's for Solera energy or just to, to talk or learn more of your your story, your wisdom.
(36:18): Yeah. Feel free to email me. We'll at Solera S O L E R a Solera energy llc.com. Or you can go to Solaria energy, llc.com. We'll thank you very much for your time. Yeah, You bet. Corey, I appreciate it.
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