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“The night of the fight, you may feel a slight sting. That’s pride f—ing with you. f—k pride! Pride only hurts, it never helps.”

— Marsellus Wallace
“Pulp Fiction”

Podcast listener Kyle Davidson (who’s been binging on the old school masters John Caples and and Claude Hopkins) recently sent me a thought-provoking email related to all these people (rampant on facebook especially) who don’t treat their websites as anything other than a way to build a list/make a sale.

I believe that’s only real purpose of a website.

And all the feelz good reasons people tell themselves (to deliver content, help their snowflake-precious brand, demonstrate their skills, yada yada yada) simply serve the purpose of building a list or making a sale.

(Otherwise, what is the point of doing those things.)

Anyway, Kyle says (of those who disagree with elBenbo on this):

“I would equate the people who believe this to the old mail-order advertisers who, as Hopkins describes, pay for the price of their pride. In mail-order advertising, space was a premium expense and every deviation from using your ad as pure salesmanship meant that you were paying more than bottom dollar for a new customer. Some can afford to do so, but should know the cost to determine the price of their pride.”

^^ Correct.

It’s also the same with this idea of not selling right away.

Daegan Smith and I had a hearty laugh about this kind of thinking at an Oceans 4 Mastermind, about people sending these so-called “good will” emails where they don’t sell anything to show what a nice, caring guy they are.

It’s all just emotion and projection.

And, yes, pride.

I would say it’s also selfish, too.

Especially since, that kind of thinking is not about the customer at all — it’s about the marketer’s feelz.

Anyway, back to websites:

Today’s Ben Settle Show podcast digs up some facebook controversy I got entangled in last month with some folks who have this kind of mindset — where they don’t think the only real purpose of a direct response website is build a list or make a sale.

(Which builds a list).

Listen in here:


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